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Gingrich: "Palestinians" an "invented people"
Jihadwatch / AGI ^ | 9th Dec, 2011 | AGI

Posted on 12/09/2011 3:19:40 PM PST by yank in the UK

Gingrich is right in this. PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein said this in 1977: The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gingrich; invention; newtgingrich; palestinians
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To: AmusedBystander

Israel has withdrawn from some of the areas these people live in; I don’t think that would apply.


21 posted on 12/09/2011 4:11:23 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
What should they call themselves? What name would be acceptable?

MUSLIMS!

22 posted on 12/09/2011 4:13:15 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Old Sarge

That is a religion; some Palestinians are Christian. That would be like referring to Americans merely as “Christians”; it really isn’t a good fit, and denotes nothing about one’s culture, language, etc. while giving a sometimes erroneous view of their faith.


23 posted on 12/09/2011 4:15:18 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
um... Israel won the territory from Jordan and Syria in the Six day war, thus they are Jordanians and Syrians.

Unless they are from the Gaza strip, in which case they are Egyptians.

24 posted on 12/09/2011 4:16:08 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: yank in the UK
For a good short history review, watch Glenn Beck - History of the Middle East, in a couple of mins.

Newt is correct.
25 posted on 12/09/2011 4:23:02 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: kearnyirish2

The Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic was (although expediatently created and illegitimate) a state.....

“A country of Asia Minor east of Turkey and north of Iran. Acquired by Russia from Persia in 1828”.

Palestine on he other hand is a geographic region and has NEVER been an official state.

Calling the people that reside in Palestine (palestinians) is less accurate than calling them Israelo/PaliLeb/Egypto/Leba Guacamolians.

Mixed ethnic backgound, no state means NOMADS.

Little or no ethnic


26 posted on 12/09/2011 4:23:55 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: kearnyirish2

“What name would be acceptable?”

Evil, muderous, hate-filled A**H*les would at leas be descriptive. But it really doesn’t matter. The article was about WHY they have gone and made up a name for themselves.


27 posted on 12/09/2011 4:30:51 PM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: kearnyirish2

What should they call themselves? Homeless.

What name would be acceptable? Freeloaders.


28 posted on 12/09/2011 4:47:35 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: kearnyirish2

The 1848 construction of Israel is partly a result of the winners and losers in WWII. The Arabs in British Palestine tended to back the Germans. The Russians moved the eastern Polish borders 200 miles toward Germany and the western Polish borders 200 miles into Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_changes_of_Poland_immediately_after_World_War_II

Lots of borders were moved around and changed.

Land belongs to those who can hold it.


29 posted on 12/09/2011 5:16:08 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: marktwain

1848 should be 1948.


30 posted on 12/09/2011 5:17:22 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: MeganC
I understood that they were given land along with Israel and Jordan seized it.
31 posted on 12/09/2011 5:20:23 PM PST by ontap
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To: yank in the UK
Seems to fit... ;>)

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32 posted on 12/09/2011 5:20:37 PM PST by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: kearnyirish2
The Palestinian brigade that operated under the British in WWII was comprised of all Jews.
33 posted on 12/09/2011 5:46:32 PM PST by D Rider
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To: yank in the UK

Newt is the only candidate with the guts to just tell it like it is.


34 posted on 12/09/2011 8:22:43 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MeganC
The United States is one of the oldest nation-states in existence--and 15 years before the Declaration of Independence no one expected that we would renounce our British identity and become Americans. Of the 192 members of the UN, most have independent existence as a nation-state only from some time after 1900, and only a handful from before 1800. Even the United Kingdom has existed as such only since 1707.

Even the peoples with very ancient histories--Jews, Greeks, Italians, Chinese, etc., in most cases became nation-states only in the 19th or 20th centuries.

The Greek nation may take pride in the ancient Greeks but their existence as a modern nation owes more to the Enlightenment and the French Revolution--and their present-day borders date only to 1947.

Most of the African nations are the result of European powers drawing lines on maps in the late 1800s. The Palestinians may have started thinking of themselves as Palestinians rather than Arabs only in the 1960s, but there are plenty of nations that are only slightly older (ca. 1960) and some that are younger (East Timor, South Sudan, Moldova, etc.).

35 posted on 12/09/2011 8:55:04 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Which one of them includes Bethlehem?


36 posted on 12/09/2011 10:52:14 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: marktwain

The losers of WWI (specifically Turkey) determined the fate of the land; Palestine was set up by Britain in 1917 (before it was over).

“Land belongs to those who can hold it.” The Palestinians understand the implications of this as well as anyone else.


37 posted on 12/09/2011 11:11:29 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: D Rider

“The Palestinian brigade that operated under the British in WWII was comprised of all Jews.”

I’m not sure what that implies, but Jewish groups like the Irgun 25 years later fought the British.


38 posted on 12/09/2011 11:14:06 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

That is also correct. Arabs who can (or claim to be able) to trace their genealogies back that far all claim to be either descendents of Esau or Ishmael.


39 posted on 12/10/2011 9:02:36 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Thanks yank in the UK.
40 posted on 12/10/2011 3:09:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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