Posted on 12/09/2011 3:19:40 PM PST by yank in the UK
Gingrich is right in this. PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein said this in 1977: The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
Israel has withdrawn from some of the areas these people live in; I don’t think that would apply.
MUSLIMS!
That is a religion; some Palestinians are Christian. That would be like referring to Americans merely as “Christians”; it really isn’t a good fit, and denotes nothing about one’s culture, language, etc. while giving a sometimes erroneous view of their faith.
Unless they are from the Gaza strip, in which case they are Egyptians.
The Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic was (although expediatently created and illegitimate) a state.....
“A country of Asia Minor east of Turkey and north of Iran. Acquired by Russia from Persia in 1828”.
Palestine on he other hand is a geographic region and has NEVER been an official state.
Calling the people that reside in Palestine (palestinians) is less accurate than calling them Israelo/PaliLeb/Egypto/Leba Guacamolians.
Mixed ethnic backgound, no state means NOMADS.
Little or no ethnic
“What name would be acceptable?”
Evil, muderous, hate-filled A**H*les would at leas be descriptive. But it really doesn’t matter. The article was about WHY they have gone and made up a name for themselves.
What should they call themselves? Homeless.
What name would be acceptable? Freeloaders.
The 1848 construction of Israel is partly a result of the winners and losers in WWII. The Arabs in British Palestine tended to back the Germans. The Russians moved the eastern Polish borders 200 miles toward Germany and the western Polish borders 200 miles into Germany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_changes_of_Poland_immediately_after_World_War_II
Lots of borders were moved around and changed.
Land belongs to those who can hold it.
1848 should be 1948.
Newt is the only candidate with the guts to just tell it like it is.
Even the peoples with very ancient histories--Jews, Greeks, Italians, Chinese, etc., in most cases became nation-states only in the 19th or 20th centuries.
The Greek nation may take pride in the ancient Greeks but their existence as a modern nation owes more to the Enlightenment and the French Revolution--and their present-day borders date only to 1947.
Most of the African nations are the result of European powers drawing lines on maps in the late 1800s. The Palestinians may have started thinking of themselves as Palestinians rather than Arabs only in the 1960s, but there are plenty of nations that are only slightly older (ca. 1960) and some that are younger (East Timor, South Sudan, Moldova, etc.).
Which one of them includes Bethlehem?
The losers of WWI (specifically Turkey) determined the fate of the land; Palestine was set up by Britain in 1917 (before it was over).
“Land belongs to those who can hold it.” The Palestinians understand the implications of this as well as anyone else.
“The Palestinian brigade that operated under the British in WWII was comprised of all Jews.”
I’m not sure what that implies, but Jewish groups like the Irgun 25 years later fought the British.
That is also correct. Arabs who can (or claim to be able) to trace their genealogies back that far all claim to be either descendents of Esau or Ishmael.
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