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Holder Says Definition Of "Lying" To Congress Depends On "State Of Mind" (Video)
Youtube ^ | 12/8/11 | goprapidresponse

Posted on 12/08/2011 12:36:52 PM PST by Nachum

AG Eric Holder attempts to avoid question about lying to congress. Saying that lying depends on one's state of mind. (December 8, 2011)

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To: Nachum

Give me 5 minutes with Holder to get his “state of mind” right....


21 posted on 12/08/2011 12:53:20 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Nachum

Demonstrates the state of our country...incredible.

This is truly obnoxious...


22 posted on 12/08/2011 12:53:36 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Neidermeyer

Uh .... is that a pitcher of water and a towel you are hiding behind your back? :-)


23 posted on 12/08/2011 12:55:59 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Four letter word for Obama: LIAR)
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To: Nachum

“It depends upon what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is. If the—if he—if ‘is’ means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement”.

Holder has learned his lessons well.


24 posted on 12/08/2011 12:57:50 PM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Nachum


25 posted on 12/08/2011 12:58:55 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Nachum

Holder is on meds or whacked or both. He has something spaced out and nutty going on upstairs. So nutty it makes me think he was the prime author of Fast/Furious. Only a dumb spoiled urbanite comes up with such removed from reality schemes. I know right where Eric Holder grew up.


26 posted on 12/08/2011 1:00:21 PM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Nachum
Not to defend Holder, who was lying, is lying, continues to lie, and should be impeached and imprisoned ... but his comment referred to "legal term of art" - he was speaking (as a lawyer) about mens rea, consciousness of guilt, which is necessary to prove if one is to prove crime.
27 posted on 12/08/2011 1:00:38 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Nachum

28 posted on 12/08/2011 1:01:22 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Nancy Pelosi - The #1 reason why we need a Constitutional amendment for Congressional drug testing.)
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To: Nachum

Anyone who thinks this lying marxist is lying to congress is a RACIST!! /s


29 posted on 12/08/2011 1:01:46 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Nachum

He is not lying, he is sitting down.


30 posted on 12/08/2011 1:03:47 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Nancy Pelosi - The #1 reason why we need a Constitutional amendment for Congressional drug testing.)
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To: Nachum

It all depends on what your definition if is, is.


31 posted on 12/08/2011 1:05:01 PM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: alloysteel

It is daunting indeed to reflect upon the fact that intelligence chiefly developed as the enabling power of convincing lies, deception and cunning.

Even more daunting is the duty of acting well even if our ancestors were murderous and cannibalistic rapists for countless thousands of years.

Out of such crooked timber etc etc....


32 posted on 12/08/2011 1:07:33 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Nachum
Our agents and Mexicans have been murdered...DIED...because of Holder's decisions and now he LIES. And tries to cover his arse by saying that he did not lie because it depends on what one's "state of mind is" when reviewing all the contradictions about this that have come from him.

Tell me, Mr. Holder...what "state of mind" do you have that makes you consider their death less important than your own skin? What "state of mind" does one need to understand death?

Holder - people DIED and you LIED!! It doesn't take a "state of mind" to figure that out.

33 posted on 12/08/2011 1:10:14 PM PST by CitizenM (Obama's legacy will be to be remembered as The architect of the decline of the USA)
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To: CitizenM
Issa just asked Holder if he would release the emails he previously withheld.

Holder hemmed and hawed some more.

Issa informed him of contempt of Congress if Holder did not release them. Mentioned John Mitchell.

Holder after reference to McCarthy hearings to Issa, “Have you no shame?”

Holder is dead political meat. Gone.

34 posted on 12/08/2011 1:17:27 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: Nachum

Get his mind right. Water board him.


35 posted on 12/08/2011 1:20:27 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Nachum

Breathtaking Hypocrisy!!!


36 posted on 12/08/2011 1:27:25 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: headsonpikes

Yo mama!?! lol


37 posted on 12/08/2011 1:31:14 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Nachum

Does sounds better than “It depends on what the definition of “is” is.”


38 posted on 12/08/2011 1:33:44 PM PST by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: Nachum

By definition a “lie” always includes intent. An untruth could be due to actually believing the untruth. That doesn’t make it any less untrue, any less harmful, and always mean some level of incompetence, but it doesn’t necessarily mean there was intent to tell an untruth.

But when the incompetence gets grossly incompetent, it is safe to assume that a reasonably intelligent person would have known better.

Gross incompetence is a kissing cousin to lying.


39 posted on 12/08/2011 1:34:15 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Nachum

That is lawyer talk I guess.


40 posted on 12/08/2011 1:37:44 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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