Navy use to send their miscreants to Portsmith ...
Posted on 11/30/2011 3:40:46 PM PST by QT3.14
A Navy ship commander pleaded guilty Friday to sexual assault and rape of two female sailors, and a military judge ordered his dismissal and sentenced him to more than three years in prison.
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The commander in chief (Clinton) got zero years for rape so I guess this seems fair. You get one free and one for 3 years.
it wasn’t rape rape /s
Yah. Methinks there's more here than we yet know. Still... it's really staggering that this guy could get so far in his career and have a lurking demon like this in him.
Shall we ban females from the military entirely and remove the temptation altogether? How would you blame the victim then?
You make it sound like he had no choice but to rape those women.
Ah... the sentence was 10 years, of which he’ll probably serve 3. Still a little light, seems to me.
I wonder if the rape was of a “statutory” nature. That is... it wasn’t physically coerced, but that he used his rank to encourage consent. Or something like that.
Perhaps the 3 years is a bit light. Might have been part of a plea deal. But remember he has lost his commission and all pay and allowances. He is getting the same treatment that Chuck Conners got in Branded. (Figuratively he is having the buttons ripped off of his coat and his sword broken.) This is really big stuff.
He will have trouble in the future getting employment in so much as a stock boy position.
He was 1 year away from retirement eligibility. This conviction costs him at least $1 million and likely very much more. Oh, death sentences and dismissals of officers are automatically appealed to the highest level, so the sentence is not locked in for several years - but it is highly unlikely to be overturned.
No. There are places for women. We proved that when we won a couple of wars.
But women have no place on ships. You are asking for trouble.
Whats worse is NOW and the congress that passed those laws. We now have 130 pound female firemen that couldn't carry me unconscious out of a burning building. Or a female cop that is suppose to take down a 230 pound male and put him in handcuffs...
Women served in the military during WW2 in occupations fit for females...but to reach high rank, a person in the military has had to have certain types of experience. Women in battle situations fills that catagory I believe. Females can now achiever higher rank...only reason for those laws are to allow some females to be in the higher ranks. Now our daughters and son's can get killed in battle...We have a volunteer army now but it will not always be that way.
The man is not charged with merely sleeping with two of his female crew. He's charged with raping them. What makes you think that had he been in command of a shore station that he wouldn't have done the same thing? If you insist on blaming the victims for rape at sea then the victims would also have to be to blame for rape on shore, so the obvious answer has to be to remove the targets from him entirely. No women in the military.
No women in the military, no women in civilian government posts, no women working at Walmart, no women out in public uncovered, ever. Their very existence means they're inviting rape, and the man simply can't be held responsible for doing what comes naturally ...
Whether women are competent for this or that occupation is not the issue, in this case. The question is whether, in the United States, breathing-while-female within reach of a man constitutes a situation in which rape is inevitable.
What military occupations are fit for females in today's military? Just curious.
Women served in every war. During WW2 there was the WAC and WAV's sp/ that served behind the front lines. The push to let a few make higher rank stinks of NOW and has for years...
Rape is wrong I never said the victim was to blame. They didn't put themselves in those situations. They go where orders tell them to. But a handful of females (for instance) on an aircraft carrier with over 5000 men at sea for weeks is STUPID. The military is not suppose to be a social experiment...
I don't know the facts behind this rape and the guy going to prison, was it consensual sex, but by military rules fraternizing with someone of lower rank.
If it was a true forced rape he didn't get enough time, but if it was the other he probably got what military law says.
It pisses me off that women get jobs in area's they don't belong, because tests that the men have to go through are gender normed for females...they don't compete on a level playing field cause they couldn't hack it doing the same training that the men do..
I agree, there are a lot of situations where men and women are being mixed that just don’t recognize reality. It’s unfortunate, but life is what it is, not necessarily what we want it to be.
My only problem is that women and men don't have to take the same qualifing tests to get a job...if a woman can carry the weight a man can, I am all for her being hired in that position.. Its not the sex of the person, its the ability of the person. NOW always talked about a level playing field, but then demanded gender norming when it comes to qualifying for jobs that take physical strength..(just a pet peeve of mine)
Hope you had a great turkey day....GG
Yep, nothing Clinton wouldn't do.
I agree. The legal precedent was the requirement that employers consider the race of the applicant, not just his measureable ability. Since then, it has grown ever more difficult to make distinctions that match jobs with relevant ability when it's really important.
My daughter Seaman Anoreth, for example - 5'1" and 105 lbs. of pure psychological intimidation forces - can teach Coast Guard recruits to shoot a pistol as well as a much larger person could, but you wouldn't want her on a tank in Afghanistan, where physical strength can be the difference between life and death.
NOT RAPE ACCORDING TO THIS ACCOUNT:
http://www.militarycorruption.com/jaywylie.htm
No vaginal penetration here. Means no rape in my book
NOT RAPE ACCORDING TO THIS ACCOUNT:
http://www.militarycorruption.com/jaywylie.htm
No vaginal penetration here. Means no rape in my book
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