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Cain Stands and Fights
Time-The Page ^ | 11-29-11 | Olson

Posted on 11/29/2011 5:21:54 PM PST by VinL

---- Dear Patriots and Supporters,

As you probably heard yesterday, a troubled Atlanta business woman used national media outlets to promulgate a fabricated, unsubstantiated story about a 13 year affair with me. I am writing you today to assure you that this woman’s story is completely false.

I do know Ms. White. I have helped her financially at times over the past few years, just as I have helped many friends and acquaintances throughout the years. I thought Ms. White was a friend in need of a supportive hand to better her life.

Ms. White has made it apparent that she was abusing the friendship.

But now I am asking for your friendship. I am also asking for your prayers and support. This is a trying time for my family, my campaign, and for me. It is also a trying time for our country as we are all distracted from the truly important issues facing our nation.

This evening I have an important speaking engagement at Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, where I will be outlining my foreign policy and national security plan. While recent events have taken a toll on me, the people in the audience this evening will not know it. I will deliver my message with vigor and enthusiasm.

Let me assure you, I am not deterred. America’s future is too important. We will continue on this journey to make America great once again.

Thank you and God bless.

Sincerely, Herman Cain

Read more: http://thepage.time.com/2011/11/29/cain-stands-and-fights/#ixzz1f99OouIG

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KEYWORDS: 2012; cain; energizerbunny; hermancain; iowa; quitmyass; resilient; reslience; staythecourse
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To: milwguy

It’s amazing. I mean I’m totally at a loss to understand why the Cain supporters are hanging in with this man.

At some point in time, you’ve gotta say enough is way too much.

But good luck to them.


81 posted on 11/29/2011 7:05:21 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: VinL

Quite frankly, although I realize that there are plenty of people who have been softened up already, and from fatigue, if nothing else, are throwing up their hands and giving up now in the face of this latest allegation; but quite honestly, I think this one is even more suspect than any others.

If it were legit, Cain would have know this was coming more than any of the others. It’s also hard for me to believe it wouldn’t have been made much earlier. It has the feel of someone trying to ratchet up the pressure because what’s been tried so far hasn’t quite gotten the job done.

There are a number of background facts to this that make it less than wholly credible. But more than anything, if this woman doesn’t come up with some hard evidence like recorded phone calls, photos or hotel records of their alleged resort trips together, etc., then those of you believing it should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves.

If it turns out to be true, I’ll naturally be disappointed, and I won’t say that the accusations have planted some doubt, but if I make my voting decisions based on what’s been presented thus far, then I will acting on innuendo, which is just what a smear campaign with nothing behind it is intended to accomplish. I won’t give them that victory.


82 posted on 11/29/2011 7:05:55 PM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: altura

I said the same thing about Obama’s supporters after all the Rev Wright stuff came out about “g-d damn America’, etc. When people get too invested in something or someone, they fail to see what is staring them in the face.


83 posted on 11/29/2011 7:07:04 PM PST by milwguy
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To: Fantasywriter
Are you purposefully acting jerk-like, or are you genuinely unable to grasp the point of two intelligent posts written to you on this subject?

You said Cain can't sue because "his favorables would plummet". Why can't you tell me what his favorables are now? You can follow the logic, right, if his favorables are plummeting now?
84 posted on 11/29/2011 7:08:08 PM PST by DTxAg
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To: william clark

And by the way, before putting too much stock in Cain’s attorney’s “non-denial,” while I haven’t read enough about the chronlogy to know one way or the other, it might be worth considering the possibility that Cain made his announcement prior to consulting with his attorney, and the lawyer was just in CYA mode prior to getting the facts. Of course, this wouldn’t have been a wise move by Cain, but depending on when and how he learned that this was about to come out from other sources, he may have felt that he couldn’t afford to wait for such a consultation.


85 posted on 11/29/2011 7:10:50 PM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: VinL
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I'm not an automatic Herman Cain supporter, just wanting the truth ...


OK ... so the Woman trotts out with a semi-private cell phone number, belonging to a man (and wife) who had helped her out finacially for some years ...


"That" doesn't consistute a Smoking Gun in her alleged claim to a 13-year long Sexual Affair.


Text messages ?

"If" ... and it's a gigantic "IF" ... they were Steamy and Salacious ... those text messages (ALL OF THEM) would have been printed on Page One of the New York Slimes and Washington Compost ...

"Funny", I reflected ... that hasn't happened ...

Then there are the "missing" Sexual Rendevous Dates and Locations ...

WHY hasn't she produced that ?

That should have been the FIRST thing that she presented the News Media ...

Something like this:

A) New York, Manhattan Hilton, Room 234, 12-13 December 2002

B) New Orleans, Marriott, Room 145, 1-4 May 2004

C) Tampa, Westchase Hotel, Room 2389, 16 August 2005



"Where" is this evidence ? Another "Politico Journalistic Secret" ???



Herman Cain really isn't ready for Prime Time ... even though I like him a lot, and have donated to his campaign ...

BUT ... between his Foreign Policy gaffes, and quite ameturistc handling of these past allegation ... I AM worried about him ...

Worried about Herman's character ? Absolutely NOT !

But I'm SURE that Herman's received GREAT ADVICE from people ... that I suspect that he's arrogantly ignored ...

That would include SERIOUS study of Geo-Political events, history and issues ...

That would also include (honestly) POOR HANDLING of these (false) allegations ...


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Herman Cain ... the "reassessment" that you need is to STOP ignoring good advice ...


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86 posted on 11/29/2011 7:12:48 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: DTxAg

Let’s say there was an above ground pool w water in it. And I said, ‘If you open the drain, water will come out.’

Your comeback would be, ‘No, not unless you tell me how many gallons are in there.’

Iow, you’re arguing stupidity. But be my guest and keep it up. Argue w yourself, if you like. If all Cain’s enemies are as clueless as you, he will Do Just Fine. :)


87 posted on 11/29/2011 7:14:41 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

Why can’t you back up your argument? What is Cain’s current favorable rating? Your argument is like saying if you open the pool drain, we’ll drown, and it doesn’t matter how much water is in the pool.


88 posted on 11/29/2011 7:19:34 PM PST by DTxAg
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To: milwguy

“The attorney as good as admits the relationship was of a sexual nature. What more do we need, pictures?”

No he didn’t milwguy, that’s just the way you read it. He stated factually that her ACCUSATION was of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults. He was separating it from the sexual harassment allegations. That’s it.


89 posted on 11/29/2011 7:21:56 PM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: DTxAg

If my reasoning and logic skills were as poor as yours, I’d be embarrassed to post on a public forum. I’d probably keep a little notebook off to one side of the computer, and jot down the things I would post if only I wasn’t ashamed of looking stupid in public.


90 posted on 11/29/2011 7:22:59 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: milwguy

I might add that Ginger White said they often stayed at the Ritz Carlton in Buckhead which is about 4 miles from the WSB Studios where he did his radio show.

Ginger did not think this one out. She wants the world to believe this man is so stupid as to take his mistress of 13 years to a place just miles away from WSB?

In many ways Altanta is a small town. Too many people know who he is. If this story was true, someone would have leaked it long before this.

BTW, Did anyone think to ask about the status of their relationship when he was fighting Stage IV colon cancer, a situation not conducive to “Puttin’ on the Ritz.”


91 posted on 11/29/2011 7:23:29 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Fantasywriter

Your continued failure to answer a simple question speaks volumes about your “reasoning and logic skills.” What is Cain’s current favorable rating?


92 posted on 11/29/2011 7:24:34 PM PST by DTxAg
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To: DTxAg

See Post 87.

Only read it more slowly this time, and sound out the big words if you need to.

[Are we having fun yet? ;) ]


93 posted on 11/29/2011 7:27:38 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

You’re welcome, Fan—writer.


94 posted on 11/29/2011 7:29:59 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Tell you what, I’ll stop asking for Cain’s rating if you can explain how suing would hurt him if his current favorable rating is 15%.


95 posted on 11/29/2011 7:29:59 PM PST by DTxAg
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To: milwguy
You chastise Herman Cain for having Ginger White as friend because of her low moral character, yet in a he/said, she/said situation, you're taking her word? Seems a bit inconsistent to me unless you're in the habit of taking the word of people of low moral character. The incidents which you just reported about her should make anyone skeptical about her claims.

I'm willing to give Herman Cain the benefit of the doubt until more of this story is revealed. Ginger White might be telling the truth but she might also be a world-class nut-job.

96 posted on 11/29/2011 7:34:01 PM PST by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: DTxAg

Well you know, I really, really want to explain that to you.

Except that I already have, and I hate repeating myself. Why not just look back at my prior posts, try as hard as you possibly can, and see if you can’t figure it out for yourself.


97 posted on 11/29/2011 7:35:37 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: VinL

We have a couple male friends in the ministry who were counseling women, as part of their pastoral duty, only to have suits filed against them by the women or their husbands for a supposed affair, which did not happen, but destroyed the lives of all involved. This sounds familiar, all too familiar! I hope it is not true. The left will stop at nothing, if this is from them. I hope no other Republicans are involved.


98 posted on 11/29/2011 7:53:13 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: milwguy

I agree with you on the foreign policy, but the accusations from the questionable source are less of my reasons for disliking Cain as compared to the foreign policy part. Either way, I guess we choose how to pick our fights, set our priorities, and so on. I figure, however, he’s probably better at business than as a presidential candidate.

The tough part is, I didn’t like Gingrich, with questionable loyalties, or Romney, because of the Romneycare, and lack of risking losing his office while governor on some issues. IMO, I would wish Romney would go back to accounting, and Gingrich take a break from trying to get to the presidency, he’s more of a pep-talker than a candidate, FWIW. However, the unfortunate circumstance would probably leave me with covering my eyes and holding my nose as I vote this year anyways.


99 posted on 11/29/2011 8:03:13 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: justsaynomore

I am proud he is continuing and just sent another $100 to his campaign. Please put me on the Cain ping list.


100 posted on 11/29/2011 8:09:10 PM PST by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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