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Obama Supporters Worried He May Grant Contraception Exemptions to Catholic Hospitals
ABC - Political Punch ^ | Nov 29, 2011 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 11/29/2011 1:31:48 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o

In August, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced that health insurance plans, as of January 1, 2013, will be required to cover contraception, including FDA-approved emergency contraception. “These historic guidelines are based on science and existing literature and will help ensure women get the preventive health benefits they need,” she said. The Catholic Church has been pushing the White House to allow Catholic hospitals to opt out of providing contraception that it considers the termination of a life, and many in the abortion rights community are worried that the president will grant that exemption. Additionally, many Democrats invested in President Obama’s re-election are worried that if he grants that exemption, he will alienate liberal women voters they will need come November.

“There’s a high level of concern,” a prominent Democrat with ties to the White House told ABC News...

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"The real concern is that there’s even a discussion about this!”

Earlier this month, President Obama met with Archbishop Timothy Dolan, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which has been lobbying hard for an exemption, having called the requirement “an unprecedented attack on religious liberty.”

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A bulletin the Bishops sent out criticizes the religious exemption in the rule as “so extremely narrow…it protects almost no one. It covers only a ‘religious employer’ that has the ‘inculcation of religious values’ as its purpose, primarily employs and serves persons who share its religious tenets, and is a church organization under two narrow provisions of the tax code.” Catholic colleges, universities, hospitals, and charitable organizations will not qualify, the Bishops say.

Sister Carol Keehan, president and CEO of the Catholic Health Association of the United States, told ABC News that her organization’s biggest concern is with the narrowing of the definition of “religious employer.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; death; exemption; kathleensebelius; moralabsolutes; obamanation; romancatholicism; tyranny
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The Catholic Church has been pushing the White House to allow Catholic hospitals to opt out of providing contraception that it considers the termination of a life, and many in the abortion rights community are worried that the president will grant that exemption.

There was a time when there really was an understanding in connection with separation of church and state. To me, allowing the hospitals to opt out is nothing more than following the laws on the books.

The EVIL in this country is palpable.

21 posted on 11/29/2011 2:24:21 PM PST by olezip
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To: Verginius Rufus
Wasn't Sister Keehan one of the main enablers who helped get the bill passed to begin with?

Absolutely and in direct opposition to the USCCB who confronted her about it to no avail.

She has no business complaining about anything now. When people like that diminish the power of the Church to root out evil, they cooperate in the wrongfulness of the act. The Church, Catholic physicians, and Catholic health care facilities need to be united in one voice on these matters and Sister Kathleen intentionally weakened that coalition.

The problem is that so many Catholic hospitals have been merged into partnerships with secular institutions and they often lose aspects of their Catholicity in the process.

But sister Kathleen got clear direction from the bishops and ignored it.

22 posted on 11/29/2011 2:24:55 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Notwithstanding

I’m missing something. How does a rule “that health insurance plans, as of January 1, 2013, will be required to cover contraception, including FDA-approved emergency contraception” effect HOSPITALS, which is what the rest of the article is about.

It seems a big step from saying “insurance must cover XXX” to “every hospital must provide XXX procedure”. After all there are many procedures that many hospitals can’t do. Open Heart Surgery, MRI’s, Cancer treatments, etc.

Is it only the morning after pill that she wants them to stock? Or do they have to do first trimester abortions?

I don’t get what gives her the right to order hospitals around.


23 posted on 11/29/2011 2:27:52 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black

I guess that the Catholic hospitals are employers who provide health insurance to their employees?


24 posted on 11/29/2011 2:32:42 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Jack Black
I don’t get what gives her the right to order hospitals around.

The argument is based on hospital or health care systems receiving government funding through Medicare and Medicaid. Government then claims that it cannot provide those funds if the full range of "services" are equally provided to all or, rather, that the funds are being used illegally if those services are denied.

As far as the question concerning hospitals is concerned, "emergency contraceptive services", such as the morning after pill, an abortifacient, are generally provided in emergency rooms which are usually located in hospitals.

25 posted on 11/29/2011 2:35:36 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Keep in mind that the pro-aborts have redefined “pregnancy” so that it does not begin until implantation. Any abortion before implantation, in their view, is “contraception.”

In Orwellian fashion, they’ve succeeded with their manipulation of the language so that for a lot of people today, “contraception” means something very different than it used to. I’d not be surprised if this new (lying) definition of “contraception” is not presupposed in the HHS regs.


26 posted on 11/29/2011 2:47:30 PM PST by Houghton M.
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27 posted on 11/29/2011 2:47:53 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I'd tell the statists that I wouldn't want either their damn orders, or their damn exemptions. They have no moral authority to issue either. And I'd say it good and loud, to make sure everybody heard me.

Instead, we have church "leaders" who are quietly begging for exemptions, thus ceding to the state that the state has power and authority in this matter.

Not just no, but HELL NO!.

28 posted on 11/29/2011 3:10:38 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: Steely Tom; hocndoc
"Forgive me for asking a slightly off-topic — but related — question. Is it true that some medical schools force medical students to attend an abortion procedure in order to graduate, with no conscience exemption allowed?"

I don't know. Hocndoc? Anybody?

29 posted on 11/29/2011 3:31:24 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In theory. there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra)
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To: Verginius Rufus
"Wasn't Sister Keehan one of the main enablers who helped get the bill passed to begin with?"

Absolutely. Keehan's the one. She ran the ball all the way up to the basket and give it a good toss, and then Stupak tipped it in.

I have no words to express what a ---

I have no words.

30 posted on 11/29/2011 3:37:05 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In theory. there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom; trisham; Future Useless Eater; floriduh voter; wagglebee; little jeremiah; ...

I don’t have a ping list, but Mrs. Don-o asked, so I’m pinging a few FRiends I think may be interested. Please take a look.

FRegards to All


31 posted on 11/29/2011 4:00:32 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: johniegrad
...they have to try to force everyone, regardless of moral objection, to participate in their immorality.

That is a great post. Whether it be abortion, homosexuality or any other evil and deviant behavior.

32 posted on 11/29/2011 4:09:12 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I believe that the official stance is that it’s illegal due to Federal Law to force any medical student or resident to perform abortion. However, there are pressures.
I’ve been out for 20 years, but I hear stories about would be 0b/Gyns who can’t get a residency slot because they’re prolife. There’s at least one New York Family Practice residency program that offers a “fellowship” - extra training after finishing residency - in “reproductive medicine. Essentially, they run an abortion clinic.

Prolife faculty members have told me they make a point of mentoring students. There’s the American Association of Prolife OB/Gyns http://www.aaplog.org/ and the Christian Medical Association http://www.cmda.org/wcm/
We give students a community as well as support prolife views.

You can help by posting your support by donating to either of these organizations and/or by following Freedom2Care at their blog http://freedom2care.blogspot.com/ and/or on FaceBook.https://www.facebook.com/pages/Freedom2Care/157292405467 Freedom2Care is specifically to fight the conscience limits in Obamacare and any national health program.


33 posted on 11/29/2011 4:22:12 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; onyx; JoeProBono; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; musicman; MEG33; DJ MacWoW; trisham; ...
The Catholic Church has been pushing the White House to allow Catholic hospitals to opt out of providing contraception that it considers the termination of a life, and many in the abortion rights community are worried that the president will grant that exemption.

The Death Squad must make us all participate in their evil.
Ping!

34 posted on 11/29/2011 4:23:12 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: MrB

they don’t seem to upset about the closing of catholic adoption agencies. This won’t bug them either.


35 posted on 11/29/2011 4:31:35 PM PST by Scotswife
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Moral Absolutes Ping!

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Important article and many excellent and informative comments on the thread. The leftists want to force everyone to participate in their immorality. Reminds me of war crimes I've read about; Pol Pot would force family members under threat of tortureto kill other family members, other examples as well. This bill (and others) are a form of war crimes.

36 posted on 11/29/2011 4:54:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for the ping. This may go the way of the adoption issue. And I don’t think Obama has to worry about loosing the liberal woman vote-—seen too many middle-aged disheveled white women with Obama 2012 bumper stickers already....


37 posted on 11/29/2011 4:59:37 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And if he does?


38 posted on 11/29/2011 6:07:13 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The federal government has absolutely no business in the health insurance industry, whether by morality or constitutionally based.


39 posted on 11/29/2011 8:31:44 PM PST by wastedyears (Not too long you devious little parathyroid. Soon I'll be rid of you and I'll be free.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

All the Protestant faith base hospitals should join in on this one. Keep the pressures on the killers of tiny babies.


40 posted on 11/29/2011 8:54:47 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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