Turn the bastards out and elect someone who will enforce the law for a change!
Lamh Foistenach Abu!
Posted on 11/27/2011 6:51:43 PM PST by TitansAFC
Herman Cain indicated today that he does not agree with Newt Gingrich’s position on immigration.
“The way I would deal with those that are already here, which has been my stated position: empower the states to deal with the illegals that are already here, not some, big, grandiose, national one size fit-all. I believe that the states should be empowered to deal with the illegals that are already here,” Cain said CNN’s State of the Union this morning.
In response to whether that meant the states could allow illegal immigrants to “be put on a path toward legalization and toward citizenship,” Cain answered, “It would be up to the states as long as they did not break the federal law.”
But when Crowley used the word “amnesty,” inquiring if that it meant it would be “okay” if the states granted “some sort of amnesty to those who are already living here,” Cain vehemently denied he supported amnesty.
“I’m not saying that at all,” he said
“Secure the border for real,” Cain continued, speaking about what his plan regarding illegal immigrants is. “Promote the path to citizenship that’s already there, and the path to citizenship that’s already there doesn’t say anything about amnesty. Thirdly, enforce the laws that are already there, but make it easier for companies to be able to enforce the laws. And fourth, empower the states. Don’t give the states any special things to do, just empower them to do within the law what the federal government is not doing.”
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For the Record, isn't "deport them all" a "big, grandiose, national one size fit-all?"
Deporting them all is going to require the cooperation of the states. The Feds have to support it, but most of the work will be in the hands of the states. Of course, I am going to have to look at the full transcript. This sounds like another attempt to splice the answers to two different questions together again as Morgan did with abortion and adoption vs. keeping the child in the family.
That is insane.
I guess I am really sitting out 2012.
This is a joke.
Everything “requires the cooperation of the states,” Ingtar.
That does not excuse the fact that Cain is okay with millions of illegals getting amnesty if some states decide it.
Does this mean it’s ok to deport from state to state?
IT IS CALLED SB1070. The law that Obama had stopped by the federal courts.
http://www.cis.org/Announcement/AZ-Immigration-SB1070
Perry set the table and now the rest are seen falling in line. They may be adding a little rhumba to the same thing Rick said, but they are all in to the crossed T and dotted I. Anything less is impractical, very expensive and serves no purpose, if the alternative can be making taxpayers out of the good ones and deporting the drug runners, human traffickers and gangsters. They are not the same.
This country failed utterly to enforce ANY laws for decades.
THAT was the attraction in the first place. No enforcement.
The borders are the Feds responsibility. The States of the Union are suffering from the irresponsibility of the Fed in NOT doing their job. It’s up to the Fed to clean up the screw up they caused over multiple administrations, and it is the responsibility of the people to kick the Feds butt, and make them do what they are chartered to do.
We have to look at November 2012 as butt kickin’ time.
SB1070 kinda did that. The illegals fled to Mexifornia.
I watched Cain talk about this and honestly couldn’t make heads or tails out of it. It was like he always tries to do: be everything to everyone. With Perry and Gingrich at least you have been clear-cut plans that are pretty well understandable, even if you don’t agree with them.
“...In response to whether that meant the states could allow illegal immigrants to “be put on a path toward legalization and toward citizenship,” Cain answered, “It would be up to the states...”
Deal with it. Cain is okay with legalization and citizenship for millions of illegals if some states decide it’s okay.
I mean, it’s not like they broke any federal laws, right? Oh, wait.........
The constitution and Herman Cain have not met in person. He’s heard about Mr. Constitution, though, and know Mr. Constitution yaps about states’ rights or something or other.
Lamh Foistenach Abu!
It really doesn't matter what you call it, it only matters what you do. Newt suggested leaving decisions in the hands of citizens of local communities, but I guess states would do. Only Newt does NOT offer at any level a "path...toward citizenship" option as Herman Cain says he has.
LOL
Yeah.....we’ll see if Cain “supporting Amnesty” gets the sidebar treatment.
Ya don't say...
He did not say that and he made sure that Candy Crowley did not get away with trying to put words in his mouth. He correctly explained that what he wants to do is to empower the states to do what the current Feds are not willing to.
Again, hyperbole should have no place whatsoever in our primary process and when it rears its ugly head, we nuke it pronto.
It’s a dumb idea.
Cain seems to have a lot of them.
If the states are allowed to deal with it, States like Maryland and California, and Florida will become suburbs of Mexico.
It’s a National Problem anyway because States cannot make someone a citizen nor do states have ICE, Immigration, or Border Patrols.States cannot order deportations.
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