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Cain Wants Illegal Immigration Issue Shifted to States
The Corner / The National Review ^ | 11-27-2011 | Katrina Trinko

Posted on 11/27/2011 6:51:43 PM PST by TitansAFC

Herman Cain indicated today that he does not agree with Newt Gingrich’s position on immigration.

“The way I would deal with those that are already here, which has been my stated position: empower the states to deal with the illegals that are already here, not some, big, grandiose, national one size fit-all. I believe that the states should be empowered to deal with the illegals that are already here,” Cain said CNN’s State of the Union this morning.

In response to whether that meant the states could allow illegal immigrants to “be put on a path toward legalization and toward citizenship,” Cain answered, “It would be up to the states as long as they did not break the federal law.”

But when Crowley used the word “amnesty,” inquiring if that it meant it would be “okay” if the states granted “some sort of amnesty to those who are already living here,” Cain vehemently denied he supported amnesty.

“I’m not saying that at all,” he said

“Secure the border for real,” Cain continued, speaking about what his plan regarding illegal immigrants is. “Promote the path to citizenship that’s already there, and the path to citizenship that’s already there doesn’t say anything about amnesty. Thirdly, enforce the laws that are already there, but make it easier for companies to be able to enforce the laws. And fourth, empower the states. Don’t give the states any special things to do, just empower them to do within the law what the federal government is not doing.”


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To: TitansAFC

True.... Some States need to replace all the babies they murdered with Mexicans...

Its a matter of economics.. kinda... If you know what I mean..
Others cannot afford the parasites.. on their system..


221 posted on 11/27/2011 9:36:38 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: magritte

but there is always his 999 ...


222 posted on 11/27/2011 9:38:34 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: X-spurt

You’re right– that’s why the lawyers are rich. _:)

I’m quoting the US Code; specifically Title 8 Chapter 12 Sub II Part IX Sec 1357– I think it’s also referred to as the Immigration and Nationalization Act – Sec. 287. [8 U.S.C. 1357]


223 posted on 11/27/2011 9:39:22 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Fred
Yup, if people bothered to watch and listen to what Cain is saying in this video without their biased glasses on, he said " WE don't need Amnesty " and " Empower the states to do what the Federal Government is not doing.
At the beginning of his 4 points, he said that the boards have to be made secure.
However Fred ? there are those who are tone deaf, perhaps they need a hearing aid to actual hear what Cain is saying in this video.
224 posted on 11/27/2011 9:39:26 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Fred

” Perry attacked Arizona and told Jan Brewer to F off, he was no supporter of SB1070, Perry was too busy sucking up to reconquista and La Raza. “ <<

Rick Perry had one occasion where he spoke to La Raza. One. On that occasion, his speech was not about doing anything the California style La Raza way. Period.

Rick said the AZ bill would not work for Texas. He did, does, and will support ARIZONA and Jane Brewer, tirelessly, on the ground of State’s Rights. Period.

You people would have none of it when it had Perry’s name on it, with an A+ on JOBS, and an actual record, but fall over yourselves spinning Cain out of this one, who went from the board room to the sound room for a career path. What that was all about? Ten years and Rick Perry mastered a few things as governor. Cain repeats what Rick says on states rights and he’s a genius.


225 posted on 11/27/2011 9:40:32 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: TomGuy

Read the transcript. The article posted is biased.

CAIN: ... because it is a package. Secure the border for real, promote the path to citizenship that’s already there. And the path to citizenship that’s already there doesn’t say anything about amnesty.

Thirdly, enforce the laws that are already there. But make it easier for companies to be able to enforce the laws.

And fourth, empower the states. Don’t give the states any, you know, special things to do. Just empower them to do, within the law, what the federal government is not doing. That’s my approach to the whole issue.


226 posted on 11/27/2011 9:40:49 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Fred
From ABC news
Perry has supported AZ Immigration Law (that Obama and the DOJ have sued to overturn), has supported a similar law in TX, has fought for more fed funding to secure the border (and been repeatedly refused) and is working within the existing parameters. Unless you know of a plan to round up literally millions of illegals in TX and keep them from coming back across the border, it’s best to make sure that there is an educated workforce and make some money for the state in the process
227 posted on 11/27/2011 9:41:24 PM PST by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: TitansAFC

so now we have Cain, Perry, Gingrich and Bachman being for some kind of amnesty.. either the states individually allowing it(and many states will) or some kind of federal policy.. just as I have always said when it comes right down to the nitty gritty NOBODY is going to throw ALL the illegals out.. it’s not possible and will never happen... so now we all can forget about voting next year they are all RINOs and let’s give the election to Obama after all the economy has to get better and he says he’s just about ready to turn it all around.. (sarcasm off)


228 posted on 11/27/2011 9:42:43 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: tennmountainman

Dude, read the freaking transcript. The article has made up a story.

CAIN: ... because it is a package. Secure the border for real, promote the path to citizenship that’s already there. And the path to citizenship that’s already there doesn’t say anything about amnesty.

Thirdly, enforce the laws that are already there. But make it easier for companies to be able to enforce the laws.

And fourth, empower the states. Don’t give the states any, you know, special things to do. Just empower them to do, within the law, what the federal government is not doing. That’s my approach to the whole issue.


229 posted on 11/27/2011 9:43:00 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Outlaw Woman

LOL LOL OW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you have incited the Cainiacs!!!!!


230 posted on 11/27/2011 9:43:15 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Fred
Perry attacked Arizona and told Jan Brewer to F off, he was no supporter of SB1070, Perry was too busy sucking up to reconquista and La Raza.

Any freeper who is serious about immigration knows this battle well.

NO..he did not do that at all!

Please check on your facts before you write something.

I live in Arizona and do know about SB1070. Perry did support Jan Brewer. He agreed with the law, only said that it would not work n Texas. I can not remember the reasons he gave at the time.

231 posted on 11/27/2011 9:43:47 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: TitansAFC

You really are constantly deceptive when it comes to Herman Cain.


232 posted on 11/27/2011 9:43:47 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Apollo5600

Reading is HARD!


233 posted on 11/27/2011 9:44:29 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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234 posted on 11/27/2011 9:45:43 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Fred
Perry attacked Arizona and told Jan Brewer to F off, he was no supporter of SB1070, Perry was too busy sucking up to reconquista and La Raza.

Any freeper who is serious about immigration knows this battle well.

What the hell are you talking about. Gov. Perry and Gov. Brewer are the only two people in the fight. Texas has shouldered a lot of the financial burden because we can afford it, Arizona can't. During operation Wrangler it cost $134 Million a year, Texas paid $100 million Arizona paid $34 for a total of $400 million from Texas and $136 from Arizona. When Obama filed suit against Arizona Perry sent Greg Abbott in to join the suit because Obama's plan was to bankrupt Arizona in the court room. Greg Abbott brought the Texas economy into the court room to stand up to Obama. I would hardly call that telling Jan Brewer to "F off".

235 posted on 11/27/2011 9:46:02 PM PST by txroadkill (FreeRepublic.com- "A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villany" - Zotted Romney Troll)
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To: bwc2221

” We’re losing our national identity and becoming a third world country, yet our politicians are more concerned about the plight of illegals and offending Mexico. “ <<<

Anglos contracepted themselves out of existence decades ago.
Who’s fault is that? Mexicans kept the Faith, and took seriously, “Be fruitful and multiply”...... We chose Woodstock. Go figure.


236 posted on 11/27/2011 9:46:02 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: hosepipe

-—”True.... Some States need to replace all the babies they murdered with Mexicans.”-—

Ouch. A bit hyperbolistic, but rooted in truth. Very sad, it is, my FRiend.


237 posted on 11/27/2011 9:46:58 PM PST by TitansAFC (Mr. Cain, infanticide is not a "social decision," and it SHOULD be part of the political discussion!)
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To: lonestar

Or maybe he’ll be explaining what he did say, because you didn’t bother to read the transcript.


238 posted on 11/27/2011 9:47:58 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: TitansAFC

So, the Federal Government has abdicated one of its enumerated powers of national defense. Cain says he’s in favor of the States taking steps to deal with the problem.

I take it you’re against Arizona’s SB1070 and Alabama’s law also?

Or did you really think the Fed Gov is going to step up to the plate sometime soon?

Or did you think Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich will take up the task if elected?

That’s like saying the Titans are going to win the AFC when they can’t even win their division.


239 posted on 11/27/2011 9:48:20 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: butterdezillion; CharlesWayneCT; xzins
It sounds to me like Cain is saying that if the feds won’t obey federal policy then the states should be empowered to do it. IOW, if the feds refuse to deport those that the current law says are to be deported, then the states can do it.

What Cain and you don't seem to understand is that enforcement of the immigration laws is solely the duty of the executive branch. Cain doesn't seem to understand that if he were elected president (which isn't going to happen) that he could begin full enforcement of the laws on January 21, 2012.

The reason the feds aren't deporting is because no president has made it a priority.

Cain has no clue what the powers of the presidency are. He has no business being in this race. He is the least qualified candidate in the field. He is just making it up as he goes.

240 posted on 11/27/2011 9:50:05 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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