Posted on 11/24/2011 7:02:14 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
Hmmm...never thought of that one! Keep a spreadsheet in front of her at all times and she’ll weather it, though.
What is she smoking? Newt has his RINO moments, but more liberal than Romney or Mr. Rogers? Give me a break. Heck, the next thing you know she will be saying Ron Paul has a grip on reality.
Newt has Gods forgiveness....clean slate...moving on from there...we all should.
Yes, part of being President is statesmanship. She is flunking that section of the job interview.
She apparently had a brilliant debate and then shoots herself in the foot. Why can’t these people keep their mouths shut for five minutes.
Herman Cain has not attacked Perry in the open forum of the debates, but he’s gone behind his back to attack him several times. Totally lost my respect.
I’m now down to Perry, Newt or Huntsman.
We don’t need the MSM or the Obama crew... we’re doing it to ourselves.
I’m guilty as well. I can’t stand Cain.
Interesting.
As others have pointed out, she routinely trashes every candidate who rises in the polls but never attacks the actual most liberal candidate, Mitt Romney. One wonders why not? I wonder what promises have been made by Romney.
Are you serious? Perry was the front-runner when Bachmann Turnoff Overdrive went after him for Gardisil. Cain was the front runner when she went after him on 999. Now Newt is more liberal than Huntsman or Mitt? Reagan excelled because he inspired people. She should try it sometime.
You are both missing my point. The point is simply a political observation and this entire nomination process to date proves my point :
Voters are responding to who is laying out the best vision for beating Obama and then the vision for governing the country after that. They are NOT responding to attacks on the other GOP candidates. They just aren’t.
Perry and Bachmann destroyed their own candidacies with attacks on others, while Newt and Cain rose attacking only Obama and liberalism in the process - and with Newt - he included the media in his attacks. Meanwhile, Santorum, who has attacked the others a lot, has stayed on the bottom.
This is the case even though Bachmann and Santorum and for the most part, Perry, believe pretty much quintessential conservative base principles up and down the line. So it’s obviously not philosophy or ideology that is keeping these folks in the low single digits.
So I am talking about campaign philosophies and strategies and nothing else here. And I realize that many are in the close minded view that a primary is won by ignoring the general election prize and attacking your current foes. I think that is BS, I think it has always been BS, but is more so this year than ever.
You win a nomination by showing how you will win the general, not by destroying the target in front of you. The polls this season back me up 100% on that.
Is it too late for Rubio to jump in, and have we determined if he’s even eligible?
Thank you for that analysis. I would add that a lot of the FReepers around here who are in the same attack mode as Bachmann and Santorum are not winning hearts and minds either. People want to be inspired, not told why their candidates suck.
Perry is the only candidate (to my knowledge) who has unequivocably pledged to vote for the Republican nominee, whoever it is.
He has never attacked anyone but Romney that I can recall.
He did call Romney on his hypocrisy about illegals, but he has not been viciously critical of any of the candidates.
Unless you can remember something I don’t ???
>> Thank you for that analysis. I would add that a lot of the FReepers around here who are in the same attack mode as Bachmann and Santorum are not winning hearts and minds either. People want to be inspired, not told why their candidates suck. >>
I agree 100%. I agree with those two almost up and down the line, but I can’t stand them for how they are running the race. And it’s not that they are playing hard versus playing soft. It’s that they are playing against their own team which shows a huge lack of leadership - because leadership is understanding the situation. And the situation they face as candidates is not Newt or Perry or Mitt or Cain - it’s Obama. And that’s the situation the nation faces.
Like the phrase ‘the ugly American” - which is a caricature and overplay of the good traits of a America - some of our candidates and many on message boards all over the place are “the ugly conservative” - they are caricatures of all that is good about conservatism - and they merely luxuriate in the purity of their own irrelevances. Most claim to follow Reagan and/or the Bible and they belie that with every post.
Yep and the democrates will be taking it to the bank and cashing in Obama again if this keeps up.
I'm not for Cain going any further than he has either...he's just not ready and most do see that even if having difficulty coming to that reality. Cain realizes this as well and evidences as much if people really listen.
People can keep hauling all the trash in these candidates across the pages of FR and in reality are simply feeding the media and those looking to take our candidates apart.
I like Newt despite what has been stated. His strengths far out number any misteps and he's strong enough to do the job and fight to get this ship turned.
Perry gives me great concern but I'm considering him now, where once I was completely opposed, only because he may bring some changes as well.
The rest are hanging in there but most won't make it til the end.
Romney isn't a consideration at all nor is Ron PAul.
Perry came out of the box at 35% due to the way he has attacked Obama and liberalism in general — then imploded with that personal attack on Rommney where he got flustered and got all indignant about who was cutting Romney’s grass. That plus heartless took him from 35% to 5%.
He has been better since then, because he has been keeping his eye on the ball. I hope he continues to do so for a lot of reasons.
>> Perry was the front-runner when Bachmann Turnoff Overdrive went after him for Gardisil >>
ROTLLMAOSOMC! I hate you. That may be the best line of the campaign and I DIDN”T COME UP WITH IT! Bachmann Turnoff Overdrive.
PRICELESS - because that’s exactly what happened to her campaign. She was doing fine on floating the idea of cronyism and parental rights - but then, well, Bachmann turnoff overdrive. I can not say it any better and let me tell you, that hurts to admit.
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