Posted on 11/23/2011 1:29:22 PM PST by Nachum
SAN DIEGO -- Imagine joining the Navy ten years ago with a career in mind. Now, sailors with that career plan are getting pink slips as the military looks for places to save money.
Since June, 16,000 mid-career sailors have been waiting to find out if they will be forced out early.
Last week, the Navy began its layoffs when the first of two rounds of personnel cuts were announced.
Read the original story at nbcsandiego.com
"Nobody ever wants to pass this sort of bad news to somebody," said Captain Winton Smith, Naval Station San Diego's commanding officer. "It's a very difficult thing for any commanding officer to sit down with a hard charger and to tell them to prepare for the next chapter of their life.”
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Actually they got a lot of takers. Navy had really strict promotion and HYT guidelines, the Army offered a second chance.
Well said.
USMA grads were also included in the RIF in the post RVN force draw down.
That was me in 74. I had a choice of reverting to E-8 or retire after 27 yrs in navy. I retired.
I know Civilian DoD work is taking it in the face as well. I talked with some of my old cohorts that still work for a major DoD company based out of Maryland. From talking with them, they are cutting vacations and floating holidays. When I got laid off in 2008, you got 6 floaters which most people used as an additional week of vacation. Some managers didn’t like you taking the time as vacation and preferred you to spread the days.
On vacation itself, they are cutting on how much you can carry over but on the other hand, they are laying off so many where those wo are still working have a bigger load to deal with and will not be permitted to take time off unless it is a day here and day there.
Lastly, from talking to everyone still there, no one leaves early on Friday’s anymore. Also management expects you to be in all day now. Back when I worked there, the flex time schedule was a big thing they promoted and I was one of those who would be at work at 0530 and on Mon and Tue, I would be there until 1700 and then leave like at 1430 on Wed and Thu and put a few in on Fri and be gone by Noon.
Went to USMC Boot CAmp in 75, had three recruits giving the choice 4 years in the Corps or four in prison. We had one guy who just got out of prison, he could have his parole ended early if he went in the Corps. Last I heard he was doing well, the other guys were all sent back to the judges.
But I bet the IRS still has 120,000 employees.
Have any GS’rs anywhere been laid-off?
Are you all kidding? I went back on active duty in the summer of ‘84. There must have been 500-600 prior service people at Ft Dix heading to Europe alone.
You can bet that won’t happen.
It also happened around 91.
I’d think the people that saw the writing on the wall hopped on the chance, especially those with years already invested. I guess the layoffs are to deal with the rest.
I had to lay off an entire department one afternoon. Person by person. 18 in total.
I cried afterwards.
I guess that all depends on the branch, skills and timing. I knew guys that I wouldn't trust to boil water getting $20,000 bonuses to reenlist. For a while there the Navy evaluation system was so screwed up that getting a 3.8 on a 4.0 scale meant you were a dirt bag. I don't know if they ever got it straightened out. I saw lots of guys who'd spent their careers in the shipyards earning bogus qualifications being promoted to E-7 without ever making a deployment on an operational ship.
Obama’s and the liberals change meant they want to change everything that Ronald Reagan ever accomplished for America. Trickle down economics turns into trickle up poverty. This is no different, Peace through Strength turns to War through Weakness.....
Like it or not that is exactly the change that America voted for in 08....
Both, if he were not the first he wouldn’t do the second.
The term for cutting GS’rs isn’t laid off, it’s RIF. Thousands of GS’rs were riffed as a result of BRAC’s during the 90’s and in 2005.
In the late 50s - early sixties my dad was an Air Force NCO. He served with several former officers, including at least one former full Colonel. My dad said that back then, once you retired, you reverted to the highest rank you held before being RIF'd, so when he retired MSgt Whatshisname was became COL Whatshisname (RET).
Nope. More admirals per ship now than we had during WWII, and that was when we had a flag for units as small as a cruiser division.
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