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1 posted on 11/21/2011 6:47:29 PM PST by Mount Athos
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Too late. Can I make up for it by passing gas in the direction of Mecca?


2 posted on 11/21/2011 6:50:10 PM PST by Ingtar
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I believe that Butterball says their turkeys are halal. I just have a hard time that they have an individual praying to allah while each individual turkey is slaughtered. Or that they contribute a proceed from each halal turkey to some Islamic charity.

I bet they think that halal is similar to kosher and has to do solely with preparation.


3 posted on 11/21/2011 6:52:42 PM PST by mockingbyrd
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Butterball can go on the list of do not buy Chinese dog food:)


4 posted on 11/21/2011 6:52:55 PM PST by Cold Heart
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Gee, great idea to demand a Butterball Boycott when most people have already bought their birds. That’s like the TV News showing the wild drinking, drugs and sex binges of Spring break 2 weeks after break has taken place. Boycotts seldom work. And most people won’t care much of a drat where the throat was cut, just as long as the bird isn’t still flapping when being stuffed into the oven.


5 posted on 11/21/2011 6:53:33 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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We’ve been buying honey ham for quite a few year and making our own dressing, I cooked Butterball.....and I found them DRY AS DIRT.....no matter HOW I cooked them. Good riddance, IMO.


6 posted on 11/21/2011 6:54:41 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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***and letting the blood drain out while saying “Bismillah allahu akbar” — in the name of Allah the greatest. Many people refuse to eat it on religious grounds.***

1Cr 10:25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, [that] eat, asking no question for conscience sake:

1Cr 10:28 But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth [is] the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof:


8 posted on 11/21/2011 6:56:14 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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If you don’t believe in Allah, what difference does it make? Buy Butterball and don’t give away your power. By boycotting you admit it makes a difference.


9 posted on 11/21/2011 6:57:23 PM PST by turbocat
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>"animals are slaughtered following halal requirements"

Satanic rituals are for satanic followers. Do Not Eat It!

10 posted on 11/21/2011 6:57:29 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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Good grief! Why shouldn’t companies provide food that ethnic customers are willing to purchase? Makes for increased sales and a better bottom line. Why punish a company simply because you don’t like the customer base to which it’s trying to expand?


12 posted on 11/21/2011 7:01:02 PM PST by SuziQ
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I called the ButterBall Hotline and asked the nice lady who answered of the Butterball was Halal. She said yes. I asked if that means if a Muslim prayer was said over every turkey. She got flustered and looked up a corporate boiler plate text saying yes that the butter ball met hallal standards and that it was humane and holesome.

I said that ok but the question about the prayer wasn’t answered. She said she would find out.

I said that’s a good idea because they were going to get a deluge of calls about this and you’d better get it right.


13 posted on 11/21/2011 7:04:20 PM PST by DManA
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Eat ham!!!!

14 posted on 11/21/2011 7:04:54 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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Haven't bought a Butterball in years...so over rated and over priced. Give me a dirt cheap generic turkey and home brine it,seasoning and the correct cooking time and temp, it will beat any Buttball.
15 posted on 11/21/2011 7:05:04 PM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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I do believe we had a thread on that yesterday that got beyond the surface manifestations of the story and determined that the basic Halal requirement is simple ~ that the turkey not have been slaughtered in the name of some other God than Allah.

And they are not.

For most Halal products the goal is to have NO pig fat in them ~ which, because this is America, leads most Moslems who care about Halal to look for vegetarian products cooked in vegetable oils. That leads them to look for the big P that means pareve, or neutral, prepared without meat or dairy products or byproducts.

That's also of considerable interest to East Asians and others who are lactose intolerant.

Frankly, if I can't tell from the product list I'll look for Kosher for Passover which means no wheat, barley or rye (as well as a couple of other grains). "Kosher", by itself, is no guarantee that something is gluten free.

16 posted on 11/21/2011 7:05:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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If they want to tell some idiots they chant over their Butterball so they will buy them, that is just good business. I wouldn't care if they said the gave the Seig Heil Salute to a dead bird... I know they don't.
17 posted on 11/21/2011 7:06:40 PM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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I got a feelin' this Thanksgiving is gonna be a memorable one ...

21 posted on 11/21/2011 7:10:42 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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When do you think we buy turkeys? You give us a story the day before cooking starts. Oh well. I never do boycotts anyway because bad news is as good as good news when you consider that everyone talks about it. Too late for this as Butterball already sold all the turkeys.


23 posted on 11/21/2011 7:11:02 PM PST by napscoordinator
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Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out while saying “Bismillah allahu akbar” —
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Daniel Pearl was Halal: I never knew that


25 posted on 11/21/2011 7:13:59 PM PST by Venturer
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I can’t believe that an illegal alien chanted some muzzie crap before they killed a turkey.

Sorry.


31 posted on 11/21/2011 7:23:19 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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Slaughtering animals by cutting the jugular vein is not particular to Islam. It’s only Islam that makes the practice into a superstitious ritual.


35 posted on 11/21/2011 7:24:48 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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From Rabbi Lerner:

Judaism has always respected the lives of animal - from the time of giving of the Ten Commandments until the present. Rules for kosher slaughtering of animals developed from the rules of the sacrificial system in the Temple. By the time of the Rabbis - at least 2000 years ago - Jews took the lives of animals as humanely as possible according to the best science of the day.

During those 3000 and more years, animals were slaughtered in the most inhumane ways by virtually every people on the face of the earth. This inhumane slaughtering continues today in more places in the world than not.

Recently, kosher slaughtering has been undergoing some change in response to new scientific information. Jews have begun to alter the traditional “hoisting and shackling” to favor a pen, even though it is a much slower procedure and increases the cost of kosher meat.

In addition to being lifted up, a ritual slaughterer must move to the animal quickly, use a knife that is incredibly sharp and without even the slightest nick, and cut through the animal’s trachea and esophagus in a single motion (at least one of these for fowl). All this is required in order to try to minimize the animal’s suffering.

The ultimate question is whether it is possible to kill an animal without causing some pain and fear? Given the answer is not definitely positive, Judaism has endorsed vegetarianism - which does not require killing an animal - as a “higher” form of eating.

In sum, you can reassure your son that kosher slaughtering is the way that Jews try to minimize the pain and fear felt by animals being killed for food.

Halal and Kosher man permitted foods. It is the method of slaughter. Also drains the blood. Happy Turkey Day.


36 posted on 11/21/2011 7:25:03 PM PST by marty60
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