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Ohio voters reject restrictions on collective bargaining, AP projects
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Posted on 11/08/2011 6:37:59 PM PST by Perdogg

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: americanpravda; asspress; bargaining; buttociatedpress; collective; ohio; unions; zogbyism
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To: reegs

Obama is pro-Occupy Protest. Occupy Protesters are pro-Rape. Biden scares voters into thinking this administration would support their pro-Rape position if voters reject socialist programs. Taxpayers will be plundered anyway.


41 posted on 11/08/2011 7:00:49 PM PST by a fool in paradise ('Are now or have you ever been a member of the tea party?' is NOT a legitimate debate question.)
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To: Bosco

No... no layoffs... the next thing is going to be a clamoring to raise taxes to support their socialist state... but businesses will move and their state bomb out, go bankrupt... I can see it now, right to work states VS unionized states, another civil war commin’ down the pike...


42 posted on 11/08/2011 7:01:05 PM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Or they believed that firefighters and teachers would lose jobs and no safety would entail and all puppies and kittens would be killed?
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The massive fear mongering was endless and brutal.

The language on the ballot was very clear as in : do you want to keep the law ?
Yes if you want to keep
No if you want to repeal

My opinion is that people listened to the fear mongering first and foremost


43 posted on 11/08/2011 7:01:20 PM PST by simplesimon (Never kick a cow turd on a hot day ~ Hank Williams Jr on the Glenn Beck radio show 10-12-2011)
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To: TonyInOhio
Truth be told, lots of those conservatives belong to police and fire unions

this is what I said much more bluntly and crude in my last post,sorry.

44 posted on 11/08/2011 7:01:20 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: dps.inspect

Tennessee is always open.


45 posted on 11/08/2011 7:02:28 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Perdogg

That is the end of Ohio. Hello Ohifornia.


46 posted on 11/08/2011 7:02:46 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: re_nortex

“Tom Tancredo may have been right after all about the need for a civics literacy test for voters.”

And a poll tax wouldn’t hurt either.


47 posted on 11/08/2011 7:02:52 PM PST by crusader71
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
National Review had an excellent article last week as to why this would fail. A large part of it was execution.

The voters support the concept with 57% in polls. However, the legislature passed the law in one big package. Kasich wanted it passed in bits and pieces. So the repeal was the law that passed in one big package. It is confusing to voters and anything they don't fully understand, they vote "no".

Then the Sec of State (a Repub) agreed that the vote to repeal the law would be a "no" vote - the go to vote for the confused voter. Kasich had urged the Sec. of State to make the "yes" vote the one to repeal the law. The Sec of State said he was trying to be fair.

Anyway, National Review does a great job of explaining how the Repubs botched this from the beginning.

Voters are really clueless. It is a wonder that we have come this far as a country concerning the voters populating the fruited plain.

By the way, I love your tag line.

48 posted on 11/08/2011 7:03:09 PM PST by Dave W
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Actually, it’s not your tag line, but your handle.


49 posted on 11/08/2011 7:04:19 PM PST by Dave W
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To: dps.inspect

When they raise taxes, businesses and those evil job creating rich folks will leave. Unbelievable demonstration of societal suicide.


50 posted on 11/08/2011 7:04:53 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Perdogg

51 posted on 11/08/2011 7:04:56 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: paul in cape

I hear that 95%+ of the ads were leftist. And that “our side” didn’t start airing them until recently.

That is no way to run a campaign.


52 posted on 11/08/2011 7:05:40 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: paul in cape

Kasich bit off too much with one bill. Do it piecemeal and it passes without public rancor. It was foolish politics on his part and unnecessarily confrontational.


53 posted on 11/08/2011 7:06:37 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Perdogg

I can’t tell you how many cars with Ohio tags I used to see while circling the Beltway when I lived in the DC area. I even see quite a few up here in Wisconsin. Maybe they all need to go back and live with the mess they made.


54 posted on 11/08/2011 7:06:43 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: joesbucks

Quote: “And Tea Party groups were strangely tepid during the whole campaign season. Governor Kasich was the most subdued I’ve ever seen him.”

The sense that I get is after 2010 the Tea Party took a victory lap and relaxed. In my town a democrat won a seat on the Township Committee for the first time in years. The democrats at the local level used scare tactics galore just as at the national level and in Ohio.

No more victory laps my friends. If we are going to beat Obama and beat the dem hordes back next year, we need to replicate the energy of last year. Hopefully, these off year elections will serve as a wake up call. You can sure bet that the dems will try to use them to serve as a rallying call. They will be busy blaming Republicans for anything and everything for the next year.


55 posted on 11/08/2011 7:07:22 PM PST by FlipWilson
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To: Perdogg

The union thugs just gorged themselves at the diner, and left Ohio taxpayers holding the bill. Apparently a lot of those taxpayers have no problem with that.


56 posted on 11/08/2011 7:08:18 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: jwalsh07

Agreed, j. Complete morons. At least they said no to Obamacare. That’s a good start.


57 posted on 11/08/2011 7:08:41 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I live here. Lawn signs, t-shirts, facebook posts are everywhere saying “No on 2.” No one put up “Yes on 2” signs, because people fear the union goons.

People were told that “No on 2” supports police, fire and teachers. Ads here suggest that you would lose police and fire protection if you vote yes.

Plus most everyone here is somehow attached to some union, if not directly, then in their parents’ history. They don’t distinguish between public and private workers’ unions at all.


58 posted on 11/08/2011 7:08:51 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Perdogg

Now, they’ll be firedmen.


59 posted on 11/08/2011 7:09:49 PM PST by edpc (My silence IS an answer)
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To: simplesimon

I am sorry for Ohio.


60 posted on 11/08/2011 7:09:54 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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