Local Pediatricians Refusing To See Non-Vaccinated Patients

KDKA - Pittsburgh ^ | 11/2/2011

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PITTSBURGH (KDKA) — Chris Barnes, 11, is getting his latest round of vaccinations for measles and tetanus.

“It doesn’t really scare me as much as other people, it’s just a shot,” he said.

Without regular immunizations, Chris would be turned away at his pediatrician’s office.

Dr. Wayne Yankus refuses to see patients unless they follow the government recommended immunization schedule.

[TomB]

You also commented about “made up stories about what is in vaccines”. Google will lead you to research in JAMA and other prestigious publications about peanut oil in vaccines. Maybe you are in need of researching the issue more thoroughly.

I tried Google and was unable to find any JAMA article concerning peanut oil in vaccines. Could you post the Title or other particulars (issue, date, etc) please?

[jwalsh07]

Actually not. And I’ll tell you why not. Immunocompromised kids have idiots for parents if they have not taken universal precautions when entering a room full of germs which is actually any ER, OR or Doctor’s office. As parents of young kids, we were not idiots. Aside from that panic causes poor decision making and gets people hurt or dead.

[Gaffer]

I’m not critical of your views. I fell victim to government propaganda in the 1970s Swine Flu debacle and took the shot. It was decades before I got over its effects.

[savedbygrace]

JAMA 2001 Apr 4;285(13):1746-8 Detection of peanut allergens in breast milk of lactating women states, “Most individuals who react to peanuts do so on their first known exposure”……………..and concluded “Peanut protein is secreted into breast milk of lactating women following maternal dietary ingestion. Exposure to peanut protein during breastfeeding is a route of occult exposure that may result in sensitization of at-risk infants.” PMID 11277829

Women have been ingesting peanut protein while breastfeeding for decades. What has changed in the last 15 years to cause infants to develop life-threatening allergies to this legume? One change has been the vaccination schedule.

The Int Arch Allergy Immunol 1999 Jul; 119(3):205-11 Pertussis adjuvant prolongs intestinal hypersensitivity concludes: Our findings indicate nanogram quantities of PT (pertussis toxin), when administered with a food protein, result in long-term senitization to the antigen, and altered intestinal neuroimmune function. These data suggest that exposure to bacterial pathogens may prolong the normally transient immune responsiveness to inert food antigens. PMID 10436392

Does this study explain why babies and toddlers react on their first exposure to the peanuts or other antigens? The babies may have been sensitized by the vaccines to the proteins through breast milk or formula ingested at the time of vaccination. This would also explain why children are anaphylactic to a variety of proteins, such as different tree nuts, peanuts, egg, legumes, milk, seeds, etc., depending on what proteins the mother ate at the time of vaccination.

[savedbygrace]

Rates of anaphylaxis have increased dramatically since the introduction of the Hib vaccine.

Clin Exp Pharmacol Physiol 1979 Mar-Apr;6(2):139-49 Comparison of vaccination of mice and rats with Haemophilus influenzae and Bordetella pertussis as models of atopy, states “The Haemophilus influenzae vaccinated experimental animal provides a model that is possibly more related to human atopy than the Bordetella pertussis vaccinated animal.” PMID 311260

Ann Allergy 1979 Jan;42(1):36-40 states “To determine whether Haemophilus influenzae could be a factor in human atopy its effects were studied on the (para-)Sympathic Cyclic nucleotide-histamine axis in rats. Haemophilus influenzae vaccination induced changes in the cholinergic system compatible with higher cyclic GMP levels and enhanced histamine release. The authors suggest an involvement of the cholinergic system in Haemophilus influenzae vaccination effects. PMID 216288

Agents Actions 1984 Oct;15(3-4):211-5 entitled Bronchial hyperreactivity to histamine induced by Haemophilus influenzae vaccination states “……This suggests a hyperreactivity of the parasympathethic, cholinergic pathways as a result of H.influenzae vaccination.” PMID 6335351

Eur J. Pharmacol 1980 Apr 4;62(4):261-8 entitled The effects of Haemophilus influenzae vaccination on anaphylactic mediator release and isoprenaline-induced inhibition of mediator release states “These results indicate an increased sensitivity to antigenic challenge and suggest that the functioning of beta-adrenoceptors was decreased as a result of H. Influenzae vaccination.” PMID 6154589

DOES THE PERTUSSIS VACCINE CAUSE ASTHMA, ALLERGIES AND ANAPHYLAXIS?

Pediatrics 1988 Jun (81) Supplement - Report on the Task Force on Pertussis and Pertussis Immunization – extract states, For more than 25 years, it has been known that pertussis vaccine is a reliable adjuvant for the production of experimental allergic encephalitis.4

Bull Eur Physiopathol Respir 1987;23 Suppl 10:111s-113s A model for experimental asthma: provocation in guinea-pigs immunized with Bordetella pertussis states, “ Guinea-pigs were sensitized with killed Bordetella pertussis………the presence of the immediate type of immune response was verified by passive cutaneous anaphylaxis……B. pertussis not only alters adrenergic function but provocation in B. pertussis-sensitized guinea-pigs seems to be a good model for bronchial asthma. PMID 2889487

Pediatr Res 1987 Sep;22(3):262-7 Murine responses to immunization with pertussis toxin and bovine serum albumin: I. Mortality observed after bovine albumin challenge is due to an anaphylactic reaction……….the results of our experiments have established that the disease induced by coimmunizing mice with Ptx and BSA is due to an immediate type hypersensitivity…………PMID 3309858

Infect Immun 1987 Apr.;55(4):1004-8 Anaphylaxis or so-called encephalopathy in mice sensitized to an antigen with the aid of pertussigen (pertussis toxin), states, Sensitization of mice with 1mg of bovine serum albumin (BSA) or chicken egg albumin (EA) ………….induced a high degree of anaphylactic sensitivity when the mice were challenged i.v. with 1 mg of antigen 14 days later. PMID 3557617
JAMA 1994 Aug 24-31;272(8):592-3 Pertussis vaccination and asthma: is there a link?

A study of 450 children, 11% of the children who had received the pertussis vaccination suffered from asthma, as compared with only 2% of the children who had not been vaccinated. PMID 8057511

Allergy 1983 May;38(4):261-71
The non-specific enhancement of allergy. III. Precipitation of bronchial anaphylactic reactivity in primed rats by injection of alum or B. pertussis vaccine: relation of response capacity to IgE and IgG2a antibody levels. …..These results show that injection of alum or B. pertussis vaccine without antigen can precipitate/enhance anaphylactic response capacity and production of specific and non-specific IgE and IgG2a. PMID 6307077

[exDemMom]

The most recent of those articles is dated 1994, which tells me that whatever they were looking at failed to pan out upon further investigation. Also, since I don’t feel like looking up all those references in PubMed, I can’t see the authors, which would tell me whether those studies were conducted independently, or by an author or two with an agenda.

It is not unusual for studies to seem to show a phenomenon that turns out not to be valid upon further examination.

After reading hundreds of studies, I would say that many of them (regardless of the subject) are deeply flawed. Not in their observations, but in their conclusions, which often appear to be bias-driven interpretations rather than solid conclusions based strictly on the data.

For example, how often do we hear now that consumption of sodas causes obesity? Study after study shows a real correlation between soda drinking and obesity. Nevermind that a pattern of overconsumption leads to both the high quantity of sodas consumed and the obesity; because of the correlation, we are to believe that sodas cause obesity. Why not assume that obesity leads to high soda consumption, another conclusion equally supported by the data?

[savedbygrace]

Then do your own studies and research. Oh wait, you’ll just tell us you “don’t feel like” doing it. Never mind.

Sheesh, go enjoy your bon bons, ma’am.

[savedbygrace]

I apologize for the bon bons comment. Please forgive me for that.

[TomB]

You said, and I quote:

Google will lead you to research in JAMA and other prestigious publications about peanut oil in vaccines.

There is nothing in those studies about "peanut oil in vaccines". As a matter of fact, the entire JAMA article does not even mention vaccines.

And if you are going to cut-and-paste your response, at least have the courtesy of giving a link.

You should be more skeptical of your anti-vaccine sources.

[exDemMom]

Then do your own studies and research. Oh wait, you’ll just tell us you “don’t feel like” doing it. Never mind.

Do you mean, in addition to what I already do as a medical researcher?

Where did you find that list of references? Did you, in fact, obtain copies of all those articles and read them to verify that they said exactly what whoever compiled that list claims they said?

If you really want to know what the latest info is on infectious disease, vaccinations, etc., I would suggest reading the MMWR, published weekly by the CDC. I highly recommend reading this week's article about the very successful effort to eradicate polio in India, where polio has dropped from 50,000 annual cases in 1995 (when the vaccination program was initiated) to just one case in 2011.

[TomB]

Where did you find that list of references? Did you, in fact, obtain copies of all those articles and read them to verify that they said exactly what whoever compiled that list claims they said?

If you follow the link in my previous post, you will see the poster merely cut-and-pasted everything in those two posts, verbatim, from an anti-vax website. Not only the journal quotes, but also the website's narrative.

Not good.

[exDemMom]

If you follow the link in my previous post, you will see the poster merely cut-and-pasted everything in those two posts, verbatim, from an anti-vax website. Not only the journal quotes, but also the website's narrative.

Thanks. I had already pretty much surmised that the links came from an anti-vaccine website. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the website misrepresents what those articles actually said, in order to promote their agenda.

What I don't get, is what is the motive behind fuelling vaccine fears? Is fear-mongering really that lucrative?

[savedbygrace]

The abstracts appear to support the pull quotes. Beyond that, look them up yourself.

[savedbygrace]

There are two JAMA articles. The second has to do with peanut proteins in breast milk. It doesn’t take a leap to see a connection.

Are you saying peanut oil has never been a component in any vaccines?

[aruanan]

What I don't get, is what is the motive behind fuelling vaccine fears? Is fear-mongering really that lucrative?

Everyone seems to need a devil to blame things on: vaccines, fluoride, nuclear power, technology, banks, rich people, Dar al Harb, US of KKKA, whitey, the Joooos. A lot of people don't need a financial interest at all. There are always a few, though, who manage to find some way of fomenting and capitalizing on those fears. Some prefer the simplicity of blaming on the devil himself. Others need something more tangible they can appear to exert influence on.

[eXe]

People like you always have to be right, Its just not worth the energy or time to argue with you.

Unlike you, I use my own mind to decide what I need. I love it when a know it all calls me ignorant, it only proves my point even more. God forbid I don’t march lockstep with the govt and medical “professionals”. lol

Funny how most of the recent pertussis outbreaks have occurred in communities that were largely vaccinated.

You make your choices for your family and your children. I will make mine. Step over the line and start telling me where I can and cant go dependent on some arbitrary vaccine schedule, and we will have a problem.

[TomB]

This is outrageous.

Here is the abstract:

JAMA. 2001 Apr 4;285(13):1746-8.

Detection of peanut allergens in breast milk of lactating women.

Vadas P, Wai Y, Burks W, Perelman B.

Abstract

CONTEXT:

Most individuals who react to peanuts do so on their first known exposure. A potential but unproven route of occult exposure resulting in sensitization to peanut is via breast milk during lactation.

OBJECTIVE:

To investigate the ability of maternal dietary peanut protein to pass into breast milk during lactation.

DESIGN AND SETTING:

Clinical investigation conducted at 2 North American hospitals from March 1999 to October 2000.

PATIENTS:

Twenty-three healthy, lactating women aged 21 to 35 years.

INTERVENTION:

Each woman consumed 50 g of dry roasted peanuts, after which breast milk samples were collected at hourly intervals.

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:

Presence in breast milk of total peanut protein, analyzed by a sandwich enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay, and 2 major peanut allergens, Ara h 1 and Ara h 2, detected by immunoblot analysis.

RESULTS:

Peanut protein was detected in 11 of 23 subjects. It was detected in 10 subjects within 2 hours of ingestion and in 1 subject within 6 hours. The median peak peanut protein concentration in breast milk was 200 ng/mL (mean, 222 ng/mL; range, 120-430 ng/mL). Both major peanut allergens Ara h 1 and Ara h 2 were detected.

CONCLUSIONS:

Peanut protein is secreted into breast milk of lactating women following maternal dietary ingestion. Exposure to peanut protein during breastfeeding is a route of occult exposure that may result in sensitization of at-risk infants.

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There is NOTHING in that Abstract that states peanut oil is in vaccines. It is, as it turns out, not true.

[TomB]

People like you always have to be right, Its just not worth the energy or time to argue with you.

No, I'm often not right. And when I'm wrong I admit it.

However in this case I am indeed right. The total number of antigens a child receives in the entire vaccine schedule is lower than a single, older smallpox vaccine.

Unlike you, I use my own mind to decide what I need. I love it when a know it all calls me ignorant, it only proves my point even more. God forbid I don’t march lockstep with the govt and medical “professionals”. lol

But you haven't proven your point. You punted. Walked away. If you have information to "prove your point" that vaccines overwhelm the immune system, please present it.

[TomB]

Everyone seems to need a devil to blame things on: vaccines, fluoride, nuclear power, technology, banks, rich people, Dar al Harb, US of KKKA, whitey, the Joooos. A lot of people don't need a financial interest at all. There are always a few, though, who manage to find some way of fomenting and capitalizing on those fears. Some prefer the simplicity of blaming on the devil himself. Others need something more tangible they can appear to exert influence on.

Well said. (as usual) ;-)

[savedbygrace]

Did you not read #174?