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Europe at war 2018
Daily Mail ^ | 29th October 2011 | Dominic Sandbrook

Posted on 10/29/2011 10:06:10 AM PDT by markomalley

German troops storm Greece. Putin's tanks crush Latvia. France humbles the British Army. Unlikely, yes, but as Angela Merkel says euro meltdown could endanger peace, a historian's imagination runs riot...

The date is October 29, 2018, and Britain faces its darkest hour. On the battlefields of Europe, our Armed Forces have been humiliated.

In makeshift prison camps on the continent, thousands of our young men and women sit forlornly, testament to the collapse of our ambitions.

From the killing grounds of Belgium to the scarred streets of Athens, a continent continues to bleed. And, in the east, the Russian bear inexorably tightens its grip, an old empire rising from the wreckage of the European dream.

Yesterday, after a run of military defeats unequalled in our history, the Prime Minister offered his resignation. There is talk of a National Government, but no one has any illusions of another Churchill waiting in the wings.

In suburban streets across Britain, old men and callow teenagers are digging defensive positions in the cold autumn air. But with equipment scarce and ammunition non-existent, the Home Guard would barely last a week.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: foreignlegion; frenchnukes; iberiandefaults; northsouthsplit
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One problem with this piece of science fiction...Europe does not have enough military left to conduct a war...or to defend herself against an invader.

Otherwise, makes for some interesting reading.

1 posted on 10/29/2011 10:06:10 AM PDT by markomalley
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Europe does not have enough military left to conduct a war.

Heh heh. You noticed that little inconvenience. Europe couldn't even take on Serbia until Uncle Sam came in and did it for them.

2 posted on 10/29/2011 10:11:00 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Europe does not have enough military left to conduct a war...or to defend herself against an invader
Only takes the union of the biggest national militaries. And Germany's one of the biggest munitions and war-machine producers right now (sound familiar?) not to mention that the Bundeswehr by itself is second only behind the USA in international military deployments.
3 posted on 10/29/2011 10:12:07 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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Europe couldn't even take on Serbia until Uncle Sam came in and did it for them
You're about a decade and a half behind the times. They wanted the USA to come in and fight that war so that they could sit back and relax. Why else did Kohl start that war?
4 posted on 10/29/2011 10:13:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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Yup..that’s the problem. No way that the Brits could project a force into continental Europe...now nay they can supply, sustain it..


5 posted on 10/29/2011 10:16:47 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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But Russia might find it a golden opportunity to do what America had prevented it from doing for 60 years: Invade western Europe.

With the European nations' sovereignty and military power weakened after decades of progressive erosion, their citizens disarmed, and their governments choked into inaction for fear of violating the almighty rule of "tolerance," Russia under Putin appears to be re-emerging as the dominant military, economic, and political power in western Eurasia.

Just my take on all of this.

6 posted on 10/29/2011 10:20:24 AM PDT by 60Gunner (Eternal vigilance or eternal rest. Make your choice.)
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Only takes the union of the biggest national militaries. And Germany's one of the biggest munitions and war-machine producers right now (sound familiar?) not to mention that the Bundeswehr by itself is second only behind the USA in international military deployments.

Right. And if there's anyone who's perfected the art of "just-in-time" munitions, it's them.

7 posted on 10/29/2011 10:20:38 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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They have soccer hooligans. Just liquor them up a bit.

However they may just end up burning their own buildings down.


8 posted on 10/29/2011 10:26:41 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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I could see Russia retaking some of Soviet block countries, but it is quite unlikely any other European people would agree to go to war. Especially with no money.

The big question is: would be Putin be content with annexing a few Satellites, or would they try for something more?


9 posted on 10/29/2011 10:39:34 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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Well, that was a fun little doomsday prediction. I’ve loved this kind of stuff since “On the Beach” and “Dr. Strangelove.”

I noticed that the author failed to mention the impact that his scenario would have on the large Islamic minorities in countries like France, England, the Netherland, or Sweden. Surely they’re not going to just sit around when the civil society around them crumbles.

In any case, who the hell knows what the world will be like in 2016, let alone next year? The only thing I can do is be prepared and be mindful of my own actions. If Europe falls apart, well, it wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened, either.

Once I heard this definition of history: “It’s just one damn thing after another.” So true.


10 posted on 10/29/2011 10:41:12 AM PDT by redpoll
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I don’t see them having war on each other, but I do think the breakdown of the Euro and the EU are posibilities, with riots, xenophobia and nationalism. This wouldn’t translate to war, but trade would collapse and travel between states would become dangerous. It is already getting dangerous for German tourists in Greece. They built the EU to prevent war, but they will recreate the aftermath of World War II, just without the bombed out cities.


11 posted on 10/29/2011 10:41:38 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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...Europe does not have enough military left to conduct a war...

I put in much of the last half of the 'Sixties in Germany, helping "defend Europe." That policy was a mistake. It allowed Europeans to squander their treasure on socialism instead of spending it on their own defense.

Another reason it was a mistake is that billions of dollars of US treasure were frittered away, with precious little in return.

12 posted on 10/29/2011 10:43:45 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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Generals, even Freeper Generals it seems are always preparing to fight the LAST war. The next one however will be totally different, fought not with tanks and guns but more likely with bits and bytes and societal chaos. Time marches on!


13 posted on 10/29/2011 10:52:16 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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“France humbles the British Army.”

Is this the Onion?


14 posted on 10/29/2011 10:53:26 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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Also, the attack won’t be in a tradition domain, it will be cyber


15 posted on 10/29/2011 10:55:40 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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With what? They could barely sustain operations against Libya.

16 posted on 10/29/2011 11:04:17 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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17 posted on 10/29/2011 11:34:24 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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“Yup..that’s the problem. No way that the Brits could project a force into continental Europe...now nay they can supply, sustain it..”

Why not? Alliance with France...The Chunnel... both are nuclear armed. I don’t see the problem.


18 posted on 10/29/2011 11:39:50 AM PDT by ngat
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Sadly, a lot in this scenario makes sense but...Sarko as Napoleon? Not seeing it.


19 posted on 10/29/2011 11:55:41 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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“But Russia might find it a golden opportunity to do what America had prevented it from doing for 60 years: Invade western Europe.”

Yes...but why? They can’t really even defend the borders that they have now. And for what? Mineral wealth? Maybe they would like a nice port, but that’s about it.


20 posted on 10/29/2011 12:08:41 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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