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Justice Dept. proposes lying, hiding existence of records under new FOIA rule
The Daily Caller ^ | 10/24/11 | C.J. Ciaramella

Posted on 10/24/2011 9:35:46 PM PDT by Nachum

A proposed revision to Freedom of Information Act rules would allow federal agencies to lie to citizens and reporters seeking certain records, telling them the records don’t exist.

The Justice Department has proposed the change as part of a large revision of FOIA rules for federal agencies. Specifically, the rule would direct government agencies who are denying a request under an established FOIA exemption to “respond to the request as if the excluded records did not exist,” rather than citing the relevant exemption.

The proposed rule has alarmed government transparency advocates across the political spectrum, who’ve called it “Orwellian” and say it will “twist” public access to government.

In a public comment regarding the rule change, the ACLU, along with Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) and OpenTheGovernment.org, said the move “will dramatically undermine government integrity by allowing a law designed to provide public access to government information to be twisted to permit federal law enforcement agencies to actively lie to the American people.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloodof; coverup; dept; dncrico; dncvsamerica; dncvsconstitution; dncvsjustice; doj; foia; gunrunner; holder; justice; lies; noaccountability; notransparency; patriotsandtyrants; perjury; rule; typicaldnccoverup; typicaldncrico
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Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice
1 posted on 10/24/2011 9:35:59 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Just hiding the gunrunning other agencies wouldn’t hide...


2 posted on 10/24/2011 9:42:34 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


3 posted on 10/24/2011 9:42:34 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

This is beyond Orwellian. A new category must be made: Obamian.


4 posted on 10/24/2011 9:43:06 PM PDT by edpc (Former Normalcy Bias Victim)
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To: Nachum

What a pickle, with even the ACLU seemingly threatening to bolt on the Rats.


5 posted on 10/24/2011 9:48:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Nachum

It appears Obama wants a Revolution.


6 posted on 10/24/2011 9:49:28 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone
It appears Obama wants a Revolution.

Won't happen. We are not the same culture that we were back in the 40s and 50s. We have already lost so many liberties that the revolution should have started a few years back.
7 posted on 10/24/2011 9:59:42 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Nachum
They truly do see themselves as hampered by the Constitution, the Congress, our laws - and are and will continue to ignore/circumvent them and RULE, not govern.

Can our country survive another year?

Will there even BE an election?

If anyone is still suffering under the illusion that this CICINO and his illegal czars would not declare an emergency requiring Martial Law - thereby giving them total control for 6 months - and cancel the elections - then they/we/you are dangerously naive.

It has happened in civilizations throughout history. It CAN happen here.

8 posted on 10/24/2011 10:01:37 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: Nachum

unreal


9 posted on 10/24/2011 10:01:50 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Nachum
“We don't need no stinkin’ Constitution or laws - we are in such a mess I am gonna have to fix this by myself, and just ignore the GOP run Congress”. /s
10 posted on 10/24/2011 10:02:59 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Nachum

Now that right there is a good bureaucracy to get rid of. The department of Justice does more harm than good. Just kill it along with the EPA and the dept of education.


11 posted on 10/24/2011 10:08:29 PM PDT by lwoodham (There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Nachum

Now who were those republicans who voted for Eric Holder, again?


12 posted on 10/24/2011 10:09:25 PM PDT by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Nachum
And just what makes anyone think they haven't been doing that already?
13 posted on 10/24/2011 10:10:02 PM PDT by shibumi (Hey! No Problem!)
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To: Nachum
Are they sure they really want to do this? Under the proposed rules the denial of a FOIA request for Obama's birth certificate would be prima facia evidence of its nonexistence. (^_^)
14 posted on 10/24/2011 10:11:01 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Nachum

“To market official truth so at variance with reality, or engineer consent to policies that mock American Values, government must so thoroughly misinform the public as to poison the wellspring of Democracy.”

“The Rockets Red Glare” by Richard J Barnet (1990)


15 posted on 10/24/2011 10:18:18 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Nachum
The Press isn't going to like this - even the ACLU is up in arms.

Hopefully, this or another action will finally be that straw that breaks the camels back - that one step too far even for his sycophants, who will finally understand that THEY are not safe either - that despots will turn on anyone, loyal to no one...but themselves.

16 posted on 10/24/2011 10:18:37 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: Nachum

I’d like to see a candidate promise, that if elected, they’ll do everything in their power as President to put Obama in prison.


17 posted on 10/24/2011 10:36:07 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar
I’d like to see a candidate promise, that if elected, they’ll do everything in their power as President to put Obama in prison.

And every slime that is connected to him.

18 posted on 10/24/2011 10:40:08 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice

Amen.

And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

19 posted on 10/24/2011 10:56:14 PM PDT by CatDancer (I'll Hope for Perry or Change for Newt, or take them both in either order. Period.)
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To: Nachum

This administration has utterly destroyed any faith I had in the Republican Party.

If they can tolerate what this administration has perpetrated, they can commit it themselves.


20 posted on 10/24/2011 11:14:29 PM PDT by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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