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1 posted on 10/18/2011 9:25:44 AM PDT by presidio9
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“Accident prone”? How many accidents has it had to earn that designation?

(crickets)


2 posted on 10/18/2011 9:27:49 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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American nukes are not the open swimming pool type that the Russians had. There is no similarity. Chernobyl was an extreme operator induced disaster. American nukes are hundreds of times more safe than Russian types.
3 posted on 10/18/2011 9:34:04 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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Reading this brought Sacramento's Nuclear plant to mind.

It's gone now. It was about five to ten miles North of the Calfiornia capital.

4 posted on 10/18/2011 9:35:38 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant suffered a Chernobyl-like disaster, an environmental group charged Monday.

Particularly with the Bronx, would anyone notice the difference?

6 posted on 10/18/2011 9:36:07 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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Could....possibly....maybe.....flying monkeys.....my butt.....


9 posted on 10/18/2011 9:46:57 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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What a telling post!

Attention English Majors:
The Chernobyl Plant was built without a containment vessel, just a tin building with giant blocks of graphite as the moderator and safeguard. It was a very poor, crude, and unsafe design from the get go.

Its main purpose was the creation of weapons grade nuclear materials, electricity was a sideline. It was connected to weapons facilities by miles of tunnels.

The scariest thing about Chernobyl's cheap-jack construction, was that the Soviets were planning to build one just like it in Cuba!

There could be a nuclear accident at Indian Point, but it would be more like Three Mile Island than Chernobyl. (Hint: Nobody died at Three Mile Island, at the time it was said to be a whole lot safer than Chappaquiddick.)

11 posted on 10/18/2011 9:50:51 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Romney: Now ! Brand New !! The Obama Puppet Available in White !!)
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If a Kennedy says it,, forget about it.


14 posted on 10/18/2011 9:57:26 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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Re: Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant suffered a Chernobyl-like disaster...

Gadzooks, this also means Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant... had Homer Simpson as an operator!

You realize, Captain, that Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant... were blasted by the Enterprise using Photon torpedoes!

Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant... had Bambi's mom's body fall into the reactor core after man entered the forest!

Ward, Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant... operators were as hard on the reactor core as you were on Beaver last night!

Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant.. was crush like a bug under a school bus when Global Warming causes a mile high glacier to move south from the North Pole!

Face, Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant... blew up when my plan comes together!

Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant.. if Obama allows Islamic terrorists to build a Mosque next to the reactor core!

Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant.. if Scotty cannot fix the problem in the Jeffrey's Tube!

And, finally, Manhattan and the Bronx would be uninhabitable if the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant.. if I dropped my beer batter shrimp into the reactor's core--

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15 posted on 10/18/2011 10:11:22 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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If, if, if, if, if - that's the sum of the claim.

If it rains today - which it is STATISTICALLY POSSIBLE; yet the actual conditions and context to satisfy that if, in terms of PROBABILITY, are NIL today.

Of course they begin with a claim that is without substance: "..the accident-prone Indian Point nuke plant.."

Then they offer a factual impossibility, with: "..A massive radiation release similar to the 1986 catastrophe in Ukraine [Chernobyl] could also contaminate Brooklyn and chunks of Queens and Staten Island,-like disaster, an environmental group charged Monday.

The only thing is that Indian Point and Chernobyl have very little in common. The plants are of entirely different design and designed to entirely different standards. The operating standards are different. The safety standards are different. The inspection standards are different. The crisis event protocols are different. The crisis management protocols are different. The regional and local crisis management integration with nuclear plant safety and crisis management are different. And in every one of those areas of difference the overall safety standards at work with Indian Point are robust and those at Chernobyl were deficient.

And, the entire phrase of the claimants rests on the lie that Indian Point and Chernobly are similar and the adverb "could". Well, possibly, if Indian Point and Chernobyl were very much alike, "could" would move closer to "possible". But they are not alike and the claimant's "could", given the facts, amounts to "not likely".

Ah, I should have first noted that Robert Kennedy Jr. was involved in the "claims" against Indian Point, and then I would have realized a scam was before us and read no further.

16 posted on 10/18/2011 10:23:58 AM PDT by Wuli
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Looks to me that this reporter got his hands on a NRDC fund raising letter and saved himself from actually doing any reporting. Maybe at one time the NRDC did some good but like so many other ‘environmental’ organizations, their viewpoint now appears to be more anti-technology, anti-business and even anti-human.


17 posted on 10/18/2011 10:31:14 AM PDT by SES1066 (Vote in 2012 for OUR CIVIL RIGHTS not the Left's!)
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Fueling the debate is the March 11 earthquake and tsunami that crippled the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant in Japan - and sparked fears a similar disaster at the Hudson River plant could make parts of New York unlivable.

Well yeah, a simultaneous magnitude 9.0 earthquake and 133 ft tsunami would pretty much make parts of New York unlivable.

The odds of such a scenario impacting ANY (and I mean worldwide "any") nuclear plant are pretty much nil. That we saw it happen this year amounts to statistical assurance we'll never see such an event in our lifetimes. The plant will in all likelyhood be decommissioned and dismantled long before such a scenario hits that location.

If they're that concerned about such statistical losses, better they work on banning cars outright.

18 posted on 10/18/2011 10:38:45 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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"The more you learn about Indian Point, the more you know it must close," said Robert Kennedy Jr., a senior attorney at NRDC

Kennedy is an idiot.

19 posted on 10/18/2011 11:02:20 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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“................... could cause a swath of land down to the George Washington Bridge to be uninhabitable for generations due to radiation contamination,”

I have no idea why that makes me smile, none at all.


21 posted on 10/18/2011 12:24:06 PM PDT by Gator113 (~ Just livin' life~)
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"The more you learn about Indian Point, the more you know it must close," said Robert Kennedy Jr., a senior attorney at NRDC. "It's too old, it's near too many people, and it's just too vulnerable to fire, earthquake and attack."

Jr. is a Global Warming nut who had ALWAYS been anti-nuke, so I don't believe anything he has to say on the matter. Not to mention the fact that Indian Point was not built, nor is it run by Soviet Workers. At Chernobyl, the operators didn't understand nuclear reactions, and they let the plant run hot and it blew its top. Operators of American nuke plants are well able to handle issues that come up.

30 posted on 10/18/2011 9:23:30 PM PDT by SuziQ
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