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Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals
Greeley Gazette ^ | 15 October, 2011 | Jack Minor

Posted on 10/16/2011 1:30:18 AM PDT by Watchdog85

Claim unfair to be stigmatized for sexual orientation

by Jack Minor –

Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.

B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization's website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”

In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”

Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation;” however, the amendment was defeated by Democrats. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fl) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law. “This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these ‘philias’ and fetishes and ‘isms’ that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.”

The White House praised the bill saying, “At root, this isn't just about our laws; this is about who we are as a people. This is about whether we value one another -- whether we embrace our differences rather than allowing them to become a source of animus.”

Earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like homosexuality or heterosexuality.

Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament, "Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality."

He went on to say, "True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation. He may, however, remain abstinent."

When asked if he should be comparing pedophiles to homosexuals, Van Gijseghem replied, "If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.”

Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said pedophiles' sexual interests prefer children and, "There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else."

In July, 2010 Harvard health Publications said, “Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges."

Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves. “It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”

Milton Diamond, a University of Hawaii professor and director of the Pacific Center for Sex and Society, stated that child pornography could be beneficial to society because, "Potential sex offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex against children."

Diamond is a distinguished lecturer for the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco. The IASHS openly advocated for the repeal of the Revolutionary war ban on homosexuals serving in the military.

The IASHS lists, on its website, a list of "basic sexual rights" that includes "the right to engage in sexual acts or activities of any kind whatsoever, providing they do not involve nonconsensual acts, violence, constraint, coercion or fraud." Another right is to, "be free of persecution, condemnation, discrimination, or societal intervention in private sexual behavior" and "the freedom of any sexual thought, fantasy or desire." The organization also says that no one should be "disadvantaged because of age."

Sex offender laws protecting children have been challenged in several states including California, Georgia and Iowa. Sex offenders claim the laws prohibiting them from living near schools or parks are unfair because it penalizes them for life.


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KEYWORDS: apa; childabuse; childmolestation; childrape; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; nambla; pedophiles; pedophilia
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To: snowtigger

You take your chances with divine law, you end up loser period.


41 posted on 10/16/2011 4:14:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: All

Where’s that vigilante spirit when it comes to abortionists, by the way? Surely killing an innocent child is worse than molesting that child.


42 posted on 10/18/2011 1:44:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

Ping!


43 posted on 10/18/2011 5:44:26 AM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Forgivable if the sinner is truly repentent and changes his life. If true, heartfelt, deep repentence is not there, he is not forgiven, and evidence is that his life doesn’t change.


44 posted on 10/18/2011 2:05:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: snowtigger

Mercy to the cruel is cruelty to the innocent.


45 posted on 10/18/2011 2:07:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Watchdog85

I’m all for giving them the same rights.....if we can cut their peckers off flush....


46 posted on 10/18/2011 2:09:33 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Watchdog85; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AFA-Michigan; AKA Elena; Abathar; Absolutely Nobama; Albion Wilde; ...
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Slippery slope? Free fall? No, a screaming nosedive. Everyone needs to think about how to stand up against this tsunami of evil which is going to get worse. How to protect your family, your children and grandchildren. How to speak up and be loyal to God's truth. Notice how "conservatives" like Rush and many politicians are DEAD SILENT about the homosexual agenda. Are they also going to be DEAD SILENT about the pedophile agenda? If they don't speak up and defend the innocence of children, if they don't start speaking out against the RADICAL and VIOLENT and UNCONSTITUTIONAL homoseuxual agenda, they're worse than cowards.
47 posted on 10/18/2011 2:45:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Watchdog85

I’m sure the degenerates on the left will be happy to oblige.


48 posted on 10/18/2011 2:50:43 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I’m surprised that bestiality wasn’t pushed before this. Even the left (thanks to controversies over Catholic priest misconduct) is firmly against pedophilia. ASPCA would be easier to push over.

That's on the docket, I'm sure.

Like we couldn't see this one coming......

49 posted on 10/18/2011 3:26:54 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: little jeremiah

Don’t know what you go by but I go by the Bible. There’s not a whole lot in there about feelings, and what there is, is always a consequence of an action.


50 posted on 10/18/2011 3:28:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t doubt that in the Bible sincere repentence is described as being necessary.

I’m not a Bible scholar, but a student of the Vedas, and do read the Bible as well. And truth is truth, whether in one language or another, one tradition or another.

Asking for forgiveness but having no repentance or sorrow about one’s wrong doing is considered worthless in the Vedas. There also needs to be restitution as much as possible, and asking the wrong one/s for forgiveness as well, if possible. And acceptance of any punishment meted out, whether Divine or temporal. None of this “I don’t deserve any punishment, I’ve been forgiven!” What to speak of “I can slip up all I want now, since I’ve been forgiven!” That’s even worse.


51 posted on 10/18/2011 3:39:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: factoryrat
Pedophiles have the right to rot in prison, if they’re lucky, and nothing else. I have absolutely no tolerance whatsoever for child molesters, will take no pity on them, and hope that they get what they have coming to them.

Our culture of pornography, and it being tricked into our homes and families, drawing people in through curiosity and stealth, has changed many a person who would otherwise never turn evil. Child, with their parents unaware, are being taken in by all kinds of horrible life changing pornography, even at very young ages.

I know of people that became addicted to pornography because of first being drawn into it because it kept coming up on their computers.

For those who think that pornography doesn't lead to all kinds of perversion, forget it. Garbage in, garbage out. Some are more susceptible than others.

That being said, there is a difference between those who are caught up in something they hate and fight against it and those who embrace it and push it on others. Many who do wicked are compelled to spread their wickedness to others. Some were victims as children and get caught into its spiral downward.

Jesus Christ paid for every sin. There are few sins more awful and deplorable than child molestation and/or rape. The law of the land must punish sin and there must be justice but at the same time all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Those who think that they could never fall beware because you also can fall, even into the pits of degradation. Self righteousness can be a trap and ultimately can lead to sin.

Pornography is a filthy disease in this country. If we want to minimize all of the filthy sins associated with it we all need to clean up our lives and start to champion the idea that pornography is deplorable and must not be tolerated or else we can expect many innocent people to be damaged and even kill horribly. The problem of child molestation and rape needs to be addressed at it's root which more often than not is pornography.

52 posted on 10/18/2011 5:08:27 PM PDT by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

most of us here knew this would happen and we told some on here but of course they had no [problem with the queer agenda because they had “a friend who is gay and they are nice” ARF.

It is time for all to speak up now, tell their friends, family , neighbors what the queer agenda is about and if they hear a homosexual saying they are married then they need to be corrected especially in states which ban them from marrying.

mmmmm, I wonder if Hannity and all the others who call themselves conservatives will speak up about this and the queer agenda, YEA RIGHT.

No they go and get on the radio, go on the TV and talk about anything but social issues like this so for all those who say they have no problem with the homosexual agenda then do not complain when your child aged 12 is having sex with a adult aged 45 and it is then legal in your state.

Their silence let their agenda get to where it is now.

To all those on here who have stood up like you you Hi tech, LJ, wagglebee etc then well done if only all conservatives had the guts you lot do.


53 posted on 10/18/2011 7:22:54 PM PDT by manc (Beware pro OWS trolls who promote the protests on here,then send freep mail. Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: BobL
Hannity and all those who claim they are conservatives always stay clear of social issues because they like their jobs and money while going to cocktail parties with homosexuals, cross dressers. Dr Laura had more guts than most so called conservatives men put together. Those cowards are part of our problem and that is why I quit watching the likes of Hannity or listening to most talk radio. Saying that I was driving on Sunday and got onto talk radio, patriot radio and I heard Gary Bauer . He has more balls than most of the others put together as well. I'm no church goer or even read the holy bible but I along with nearly everyone I know think the homo agenda is sick.
54 posted on 10/18/2011 7:31:09 PM PDT by manc (Beware pro OWS trolls who promote the protests on here,then send freep mail. Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: little jeremiah

I’ve said what I think on this thread in other posts but you and I and some others knew damn well this would come.

You’ve seen my kids LJ.

Anyone touch my kids and they do so at their own peril.

A child will have to live with their injustice all their life and so should the person who touches my kids or any kids 100 times fold.


55 posted on 10/18/2011 7:34:59 PM PDT by manc (Beware pro OWS trolls who promote the protests on here,then send freep mail. Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: manc

“Dr Laura had more guts than most so called conservatives men put together”

Agree, FOR SURE. Even when she’s just doing her regular show, she REALLY lays in to people, usually (but not always) women...who are being idiots.


56 posted on 10/18/2011 7:38:12 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL

I didn’t know she still had a show, .
I’ll check to see if she has a website right now and check her show out.

Thanks Bob.

My wife is not even 40 yet and she said the other day “what has gone on with women today, they are losing kids, cheating, not looking after their family, “
She know a bunch of women or have met women who have had their kids taken away.

LOL She just said to me that some women of today are selfish , that they think of themselves and don’t take their marriages seriously.


57 posted on 10/18/2011 7:45:06 PM PDT by manc (Beware pro OWS trolls who promote the protests on here,then send freep mail. Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: manc

You have a good wife, manc!


58 posted on 10/18/2011 8:42:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: manc

I’ve often wished I had a radio show - once I start going, it’s hard to stop!

Only everyone would hate me.

:-D

There is a small hippie radio station in the valley and they’d probably let me on - once!


59 posted on 10/18/2011 8:44:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Watchdog85
If some pervert sexually harms one of my grandchildren they better hope the government puts me away before I take matters into hand myself. I don't give a rats arse whether the pervert loving APA eliminates this disorder from the DSM, these people are deserving of nothing less then permanent incarceration.
60 posted on 10/18/2011 9:42:18 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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