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Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals
Greeley Gazette ^ | 15 October, 2011 | Jack Minor

Posted on 10/16/2011 1:30:18 AM PDT by Watchdog85

Claim unfair to be stigmatized for sexual orientation

by Jack Minor –

Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.

B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization's website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”

In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”

Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation;” however, the amendment was defeated by Democrats. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fl) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law. “This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these ‘philias’ and fetishes and ‘isms’ that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.”

The White House praised the bill saying, “At root, this isn't just about our laws; this is about who we are as a people. This is about whether we value one another -- whether we embrace our differences rather than allowing them to become a source of animus.”

Earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like homosexuality or heterosexuality.

Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament, "Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality."

He went on to say, "True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation. He may, however, remain abstinent."

When asked if he should be comparing pedophiles to homosexuals, Van Gijseghem replied, "If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.”

Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said pedophiles' sexual interests prefer children and, "There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else."

In July, 2010 Harvard health Publications said, “Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges."

Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves. “It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”

Milton Diamond, a University of Hawaii professor and director of the Pacific Center for Sex and Society, stated that child pornography could be beneficial to society because, "Potential sex offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex against children."

Diamond is a distinguished lecturer for the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco. The IASHS openly advocated for the repeal of the Revolutionary war ban on homosexuals serving in the military.

The IASHS lists, on its website, a list of "basic sexual rights" that includes "the right to engage in sexual acts or activities of any kind whatsoever, providing they do not involve nonconsensual acts, violence, constraint, coercion or fraud." Another right is to, "be free of persecution, condemnation, discrimination, or societal intervention in private sexual behavior" and "the freedom of any sexual thought, fantasy or desire." The organization also says that no one should be "disadvantaged because of age."

Sex offender laws protecting children have been challenged in several states including California, Georgia and Iowa. Sex offenders claim the laws prohibiting them from living near schools or parks are unfair because it penalizes them for life.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apa; childabuse; childmolestation; childrape; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; nambla; pedophiles; pedophilia
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To: Watchdog85
Another right is ... "the freedom of any sexual thought, fantasy or desire."

Already got that. It's quite impossible to criminalize thought. If you keep your mouth shut about what you're thinking.

21 posted on 10/16/2011 4:15:04 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Already got that. It's quite impossible to criminalize thought. If you keep your mouth shut about what you're thinking(emphasis added).

I know I do.

22 posted on 10/16/2011 4:27:07 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: MichaelP

Labels are important. In the past people with the “alternative lifestyle” of “dead people-attracted people” (DPAP) were called necrophiliacs. Even necrophiliacs mistakenly described themselves as necrophiliacs during Necrophilia Pride Parades. It is time to stamp out the prejudice against this victimless alternative lifestyle. Eventually the APA will come out against the real disease that is threatening our society: heterosexuality. We have “progressed” so far that some people may not recognize sarcasm when it should be obvious. My apologies.


23 posted on 10/16/2011 4:44:04 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: fortheDeclaration

The APA continues to go into the abyss. Every couple of years they update the DSM to “disorder” simple bad behavior and give a pass to evil behavior. (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) is published by the American Psychiatric Association and provides a common language and standard criteria for the classification of mental disorders.)

Next time you are in a book store spend an hour flipping through the DSM IV TR. It is a window into why our culture is degrading.

My husband, a successful man, would be put on heavy medication if he were a child today—simply because he behaved like a male when he was a kid. That’s it in a nutshell—typical male/female NORMAL HUMAN BEHAVIOR is now looked at as “disordered” and EVIL behavior is “life style choice”.

The instinct to protect your child is going to be a hard one for these creeps to wear away at...but here they go...making a huge inroad.

We live in a sorry state of affairs. It is disheartening, to say the least.


24 posted on 10/16/2011 4:46:10 AM PDT by Pigsley
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To: Watchdog85

In 74 we warned this would happen when the APA in a STUPID political move dropped homosexuality from the DSM as deviant behavior- but the papertrained stuffed suits knew how to deal with those Moral and Religious types and the poo pooed all over our reasoned speculation. When the US supreme Court decided in a STUPID and unconstitutional act to side with the enemy in Lawrence v. Texas-and without just cause tossed a
previously decided Law— Justice Scalia wrote of the reasonable consequences. But the demigods of the oligarchy of despots knew how to handle such Moral ,and Religious opposition— So the slide down the talus slope into treacherous waters continues.The national sin for which Providence is now punishing America is far worse than the national sin known as the African slave trade that motivated the response I am reflecting For we have not merely “Forgotten God” as President Lincoln would note during the dark days of our Civil War. We have allowed the nation to reject God. And have allowed our fellow Americans stand with their fist in the face of the God that made us.May God have mercy on this stiff necked and rebellious people.


25 posted on 10/16/2011 4:52:50 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Watchdog85

Down the slippery slope we go...


26 posted on 10/16/2011 5:38:41 AM PDT by joma89
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Every age attempts to put an addendum onto the bible to nominate some sin in addition to the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit as the unforgivable sin.

I think of that every time I see a professed Christian type the words, "may he burn in hell".

Child sex abuse is a heinous crime and deserves harsh punishment on this earth but I don't wish anyone an eternity in hell.

27 posted on 10/16/2011 5:42:39 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Just remember, it wasn’t that long ago and the world was against public homosexuality.

The left has so destroyed the concept of morality that many will accept it will very little pressure. They are now using the same techniques for pedophilia as they did with homosexuality. They are placing pedophiles in high level positions in psychiatric fields to force normalcy. It has happened in several countries in Europe and it will happen here. Just do a search on the age of consent differences for heterosexuals vs homosexuals. In many cases the homosexual age of consent is years younger than for heteros.


28 posted on 10/16/2011 5:50:06 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: joma89
Down the slippery slope we go...


Slippery slope?

Nope, this is a full blown free fall!

The end is truly near.
29 posted on 10/16/2011 5:59:18 AM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: Watchdog85

Our country?? The UN has been supporting 14 as the age of consent for homos for a very long time.


30 posted on 10/16/2011 6:10:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Watchdog85

Molesting the young and the dead, abortion etc... A democrate’s symbolical dream of molesting tax payers for their work and earnings... government approved. Taxation without representation and pedophilia are all the hand in hand rage of these days of the “fun TV” generation.

We are all socialists now, according to NewsWeek.


31 posted on 10/16/2011 6:44:25 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Dutch Boy

It’s the new age “feelings are so important not to hurt” psychology. The “boobs made me do it” type Shariah honor killing is coming.


32 posted on 10/16/2011 6:48:10 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Watchdog85
Why not give child molesters the rights of the queers and transvestites? After all, they are perverts too. I think that it's a pure case of discrimination to place one level of pervert above the other. Next, when the queers and child molesters get their "equal rights" established, they will discriminate against the bestiality perverts. It's just terrible. Biased civil rights for queers and transvestites against the other sick perverts. We just gotta do something now!
33 posted on 10/16/2011 7:13:38 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: StonyBurk
In 74 we warned this would happen...

Anita Bryant saw the writing on the wall.
34 posted on 10/16/2011 7:22:16 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Watchdog85

“Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.”

The first step was getting the APA on board. Pointing that out is what cost Dr. Laura most of her career. Even Rush kept clear of it. Just a couple of months ago, even on this site, there were people siding the pedeo bunch.

So, it has started.


35 posted on 10/16/2011 8:05:07 AM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: Watchdog85

The only ones fooled are again and again the American people. I don’t know if it is ignorance or malevolence.


36 posted on 10/16/2011 8:15:44 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: SpaceBar

Didn’t the American people also turn against Anita Bryant over this? They always seem to get it wrong.


37 posted on 10/16/2011 8:17:31 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Dutch Boy

Remember too that many, many of the American people under 68 years of age have a sexual libertine viewpoint based from their teen and early adult years.


38 posted on 10/16/2011 8:19:04 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Watchdog85

Remove pedophilia from DSM-V. It’s for the children.


39 posted on 10/16/2011 8:21:20 AM PDT by RichInOC (Sarah Palin is at war with the left. Most Freepers are just playing the video game.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Doesn’t the Bible say there is only one unforgivable sin?

It may be a forgiveable sin, but ALL sin has consequenses, and crime against children is one that was pointed out as particularly heinous.

If it is against one of my grandchildren, the pervert had better make his peace with God before I find him. I will take my chances with the Earthly law, as well as Divine Law.

As far as I am concerned the only thing a child molester deserves is a bullet to the head, followed by a trip to the dump.

This may seem harsh to some pansy feelings, but I have worked with some of these children and seen first hand the damage done to them.

40 posted on 10/16/2011 10:06:13 AM PDT by snowtigger (.)
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