Posted on 10/15/2011 4:18:53 PM PDT by VinL
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally...
Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.
The remarks were among the most pointed yet by Mr. Cain about illegal immigration, and they come as he is enjoying a surge in national political polls on the back of his victory in a recent Florida straw poll..
It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical.
“It’s going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you — Warning.’” At an earlier rally, on the campus of Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., he added that the sign would be written “in English and in Spanish.”
“This nation has always been a nation with wide open doors,” Mr. Cain said at the second rally. “We want to make it easy for people to come through the front door. And we’re going to shut off the back door so you don’t have to sneak into America.”
(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...
I used to live in Sorry Gulch (affectionate ribbing) as well, but the fact remains it was a US Territory and afforded all of the regular protections and rights to all of its US citizens. Remember that Wyatt Earp’s brother Virgil was the US Marshal for the region with Wyatt and Morgan becoming Deputy Sheriffs of then Pima County?
In 1886, General Nelson A. Miles designated Fort Huachuca as his advance headquarters and forward supply base for the Geronimo campaign. Geronimo’s surrender in August 1886 practically ended the Apache danger in southern Arizona. The Army closed more than 50 camps and forts in the territory, but Fort Huachuca was retained because of continuing border troubles involving renegade Indians, Mexican bandits, and American outlaws and freebooters.
It wasn’t long after the Earp days that Arizona became a state on February 14, 1912. Exactly two months before the sinking of the Titanic. BTW, if in Vegas, make the Titanic Exhibit at Luxor. They have a piece if the hull of the ship on display. Very moving and haunting to see artifacts and belongings of the passengers and crew.
In 1913, the 10th Cavalry “Buffalo Soldiers” arrived and remained almost 20 years. The 10th Cavalry joined General John J. Pershing in the 1916 expedition into Mexico and, during World War I, it was assigned the mission of guarding the United-States-Mexico border.
I loved my time stationed at Ft. Huachuca (USAEPG ‘74-’76) and after a lifetime as an Army Brat and eventually a soldier myself, claimed it as my adoptive home. I never really had one before then.
“It’s about hatred for Mexicans.”
If people hated Mexicans, why is it that one of the biggest industries in Mexico is tourism?
Although I’d LOVE to see a militarized border, who is putting words in who’s mouth now?
Not Nativist, American. I value my border enough to defend it. And you didn’t answer the question. You resorted to more diversion. Typical.
BTW, don’t tell me we couldn’t build a mid river fence if we ‘wanted to”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Pontchartrain_Causeway
Tech has existed for a LONG time.
You need to pay attention to whats going on.
Rick Perry was against Jan Brewers law as it “was not right for Texas”
That is why he pushed and passed SB9 which implemented safeguards to stop rogue local sanctuary cities type aholes from PREVENTING officers asking for immigration status.
At its core, SB 9 allows law enforcement officers to ask someone about their immigration status after they are detained and also establishes uniform statewide standards. It also would ban local governments from enacting a policy prohibiting the enforcement of state or federal immigration laws.
You know I think you are right, we should not put up a wall or fence because a cow might need a drink of water. I mean how silly to put our economic and national security ahead of bovine thirst. /sarcasm
Norm, you have nailed it. Kudos.
Where you gonna get the water?
Drive in the ground a copper ground rod and attach all three conductors of a 20 foot length of heavy duty extension cord to it. On the other end attach all three conductors to a insulated clamp. Clamp on to the electrified conductor of the fence and it will short out the circuit, making the fence safe for transit.
It had been already said by muawiyah, but let me say it again. I have been at a couple of ranches here and there in the country, and, I must tell, hardly any of them had a riverfront with a major river or a lake. Not just that - even if it had, the rancher would be keeping the cattle away from the river for a variety of reasons. Water is pumped from a well into troughs for the cows to drink from, it's cleaner and safer this way, and more reliable too.
It will be subjected to dozens of dynamite attacks daily until it is nothing more the Swiss cheese.
Any structure needs to be guarded, otherwise it will not survive. Even the Egyptian pyramids got robbed and broken into and partially dismantled.
However if the fence is guarded then there is no point in dynamiting it - you still can't get through. First you need to cross a wide no-man's-land to even get to the fence. Then you need to deploy the charge and retreat. Then, if you are still alive, you detonate the charge remotely and a small section of the fence gets destroyed. What now? There are now weapons trained at the breach, and until the fence is restored nobody can even move a finger on the Mexico side within half a mile from the fence. Then everything goes back to normal. What's the point then of blowing the thing up?
2.) A FENCE IN THE TEXAS DESERT AREAS WOULD BE A MASSIVE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LAND GRAB THAT WOULD STEAL THE ENTIRE RIO GRANDE RIVERFRONT FROM RIVERFRONT PROPERTY OWNERS AND GIVE IT TO MEXICO.
As opposed to a 100 mile wide strip of land de-facto ceded to Mexico? Besides, the land is not "ceded to Mexico," it just becomes a zone of instant death for all crossers.
Hermain Cain
The “Gimmick Candidate”.
Everything is so simple-minded with this guy... So basic
Can’t believe so many of you other-wise politically savvy folks fall for his simplistic Ideas
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I suspect this will turn out like the three page bill.
Some news person or Jon Stewart will poke fun of the fence idea, Cain will say it was a joke and sarcasm and the joke is on whomever believed it as literal.
That seems to be how he rolls.
The context of this thread is what prompted that remark. Glad to see your not a total idiot.
>>>>>Try reading the post you're responding to.
I did and your post was juvenile BS!
>>>>>>I didn't attack you at all.
You go from dumb to dumber. LOL
Well, I do wonder about Mr Perry’s methodology from time to time.
I always think, why didn’t he diffuse this by giving “X” simple answer?
A possible answer is that he wants his opponents to misunderestimate him.
Kinda sounds like a Mexican problem to me.
Yea, we sent men to the moon, built 1000 foot skyscraper/cities and live in orbit but piping water through a fence id a step beyond us ;)
Whatever happen to logical/critical thought on Free Republic? Seems to flies out the window lately when protecting a candidate is ‘job 1’.
The tricky part was hiding the dirt that came out as they tunneled under the wall.
Non lethal electric fences are commonly used by private citizens and government entities to prevent trespass. Freight train carriers, auto auctions, equipment rental companies, auto dealers, housing communities, commercial factories, warehouses, prisons, military bases, and government buildings are all places where non lethal electric fences are used.
Yet you think for some unknown reason that Cain is advocating the electricution of children and babies.
You Perry-bots on this thread are a joke.
You're not building up support for your candidate with such hyperbole. You're doing your candidate harm.
You know I wonder how the US Govt EVER got permission to build the interstate highway system. Think of all those land owners that were in the way. /sarcasm
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