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Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence
Pravda- NY Times Division ^ | 10/15/11 | Wyatt

Posted on 10/15/2011 4:18:53 PM PDT by VinL

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally...

Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.

The remarks were among the most pointed yet by Mr. Cain about illegal immigration, and they come as he is enjoying a surge in national political polls on the back of his victory in a recent Florida straw poll..

It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical.

“It’s going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you — Warning.’” At an earlier rally, on the campus of Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., he added that the sign would be written “in English and in Spanish.”

“This nation has always been a nation with wide open doors,” Mr. Cain said at the second rally. “We want to make it easy for people to come through the front door. And we’re going to shut off the back door so you don’t have to sneak into America.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; US: New York
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To: marty60

At least he’s proposed an idea. Just because maybe it’s not the ultimate solution but it can start a discussion. Everyone keeps predicting his demise and yet he keep rising. Because he’s clear & concise & tough. It’s not enough to say “we need to close the border”.

Cindie


261 posted on 10/15/2011 5:50:48 PM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: DTxAg

NOW THAT IS FUNNY!

Thanks.


262 posted on 10/15/2011 5:51:31 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: hocndoc

“Private property rights, the right not to have government take property is one reason for the Declaration of Independence.”

WRONG. The RIGHT for the government to take property is contained in the 5th Amendment to the US Constitution. You may want to read it some time.


263 posted on 10/15/2011 5:51:43 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: mkjessup

The guy who gave Amnesty?

Don’t get me wrong, I thought Reagan was a great man, but let’s get real.


264 posted on 10/15/2011 5:52:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Reagan Man

For a man who supported RR you sure don’t seem to believe Americans are capable of much. And I doubt RR would call people wanted their border defended idiots etc.

To All...

Why so many excuses of why we ‘Can’t” defend the border on this thread? Because the anti-fence types keep repeating liberal talking points does not make them true.

Money? We spend billions supporting terrorists. Spend that on the fence instead.

Tunnels? Ground penetrating sonar with patrols.

And lastly, the life of one American is worth more to me than all the illegals and would-be illegals combined. Do you naysayers of the fence and deadly force agree or disagree?

Simple question. Answer it.


265 posted on 10/15/2011 5:52:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Reagan Man; jla
Let me get this straight. You say Reagan would have electrfied the Tex-Mex border. You’re nuts! LOL

Don't put words in my mouth, I said that Reagan would have made those borders air tight had he been President on 9/11. Why don't you tell us what YOU think he would have done?

Try reading the post you're responding to.

And having been here as long as you have, you must know. Attacking someones screen name means you lost the debate.

I didn't attack you at all. I said it was "sad" that someone with your moniker was wailing away about what SHOULD be (to most everyone with an IQ over room temperature) a logical conservative position, i.e., SECURE THE BORDERS to prevent ILLEGALS from coming IN.

I have no idea why you’re acting like such a fool. Carry on if you must.

I'm sure it all seems foolish to you. As I said to the open borders fan 'jla', leave your door unlocked at night and see what happens. Or tell us your plan for securing the borders.
266 posted on 10/15/2011 5:52:52 PM PDT by mkjessup (Herman Cain is a God fearin', Jesus-lovin', Constitution-revering PATRIOT. What's not to like?)
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To: Grey Eagle

“The country is broke. Where would the money come from?”

It comes from reducing all the boots on the ground, once a wall in place. It costs next to nothing to guard the 14 miles of wall south of San Diego.


267 posted on 10/15/2011 5:53:29 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: VinL

“Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence”

You know, I hate it when others say that they “love” a politician but Herman is making me think some REALLY fond thoughts of him.


268 posted on 10/15/2011 5:53:37 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: BobL

Are you buying it and installing it?

You got permission from the land owners?


269 posted on 10/15/2011 5:53:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BobL
All I have heard from Perry is "boots on the ground, boots on the ground", but nobody has asked him the "so what"?

All Cain has done is answered the "so what". What remains next is for someone to ask Perry just what are all those "boots on the ground supposed to do"? The answer should be the same the Cain gave (unless Perry wants to give our troops rubber bullets.)

270 posted on 10/15/2011 5:53:59 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: tirednvirginia

HE’s not electrocuting them their PARENTS who chose to try to sneak them through a clearly marked fence are. Those coming across are responsible for themselves. It’s not our responsibility to keep them safe.

Cindie


271 posted on 10/15/2011 5:55:16 PM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: VinL

Excellent idea! In addition to the electrified fence, he should have a ditch and guard towers as well. Oops, I just identified the Nazi camp better known as Dachau. Buy hey, giving red meat to the base always goes down easy, but doesn’t get digested too well once scrutinized.


272 posted on 10/15/2011 5:55:44 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: IrishPennant

I got ya, Brother.

I was referring to those fu*king solar panels “actually working”. I’m in southern Texas and I know full well what our weather here can do.

Frankly, I’m all for running some razor wire with some strategically placed claymores. I think that would do the trick. And as an added bonus, they are environmentally “friendly”!

What a deal!


273 posted on 10/15/2011 5:56:25 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: VinL
Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence

This is shockingly good news!

274 posted on 10/15/2011 5:56:56 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mylife

“Are you buying it and installing it?
You got permission from the land owners?”

What the hell are you talking about? I thought your type kept PREACHING to us that it’s a NATIONAL ISSUE...so I don’t really care what the land owners think. I feel the same way when I highway needs to get built.

Sorry if that upsets you.


275 posted on 10/15/2011 5:57:20 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: MNJohnnie
Works for me.

Bet it'll work, period!

:)

276 posted on 10/15/2011 5:57:47 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! Compiling New Sarah Palin Ping List! Tell me if you want on it!)
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To: marty60

Perrywinkles loveng on each other, so sweet.


277 posted on 10/15/2011 5:58:01 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“All I have heard from Perry is “boots on the ground, boots on the ground”, but nobody has asked him the “so what”?

All Cain has done is answered the “so what”. What remains next is for someone to ask Perry just what are all those “boots on the ground supposed to do”? The answer should be the same the Cain gave (unless Perry wants to give our troops rubber bullets.) “

They should also ask him how he plans to pay for these “boots on the ground”. Anyway, Cain covered boots on the ground in his speech (i.e., the military), and it was IMMEDIATELY DISMISSED by the Romney-bots on this thread.


278 posted on 10/15/2011 5:58:57 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: Norm Lenhart
>>>>>>And I doubt RR would call people wanted their border defended idiots etc

Never said that and you know it. Don't put words in my mouth. Look at the title of this thread. "Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence" Reagan would never, EVER, have supported electrifying the Tex-Mex border.

May be you'd like to see land mines and machine guns on the Tex-Mex border too. Nativist nonsense! Calling John Tanton.....

279 posted on 10/15/2011 5:59:32 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: muawiyah

No doubt in my mind, the Mexican government will allow a fence to be built on their land. /s

As for cows being normal...and drinking from troughs...how would that work out for a herd of hundreds?

Just questions that enter my mind.


280 posted on 10/15/2011 6:01:46 PM PDT by berdie
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