Posted on 10/15/2011 4:18:53 PM PDT by VinL
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the countrys border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally...
Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops with real guns and real bullets on the border to stop illegal immigration.
The remarks were among the most pointed yet by Mr. Cain about illegal immigration, and they come as he is enjoying a surge in national political polls on the back of his victory in a recent Florida straw poll..
It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical.
Its going to be 20 feet high. Its going to have barbed wire on the top. Its going to be electrified. And theres going to be a sign on the other side saying, It will kill you Warning. At an earlier rally, on the campus of Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., he added that the sign would be written in English and in Spanish.
This nation has always been a nation with wide open doors, Mr. Cain said at the second rally. We want to make it easy for people to come through the front door. And were going to shut off the back door so you dont have to sneak into America.
(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...
Sharks with freakin lasers!!!!
Yes he does and obviously you don’t. The Military will not be engaged in policing the citizens of this country. Check your history and you will find that many of the cavalry forts and outposts were tasked with going after the likes of Pancho Villa and other cross border bandits after they got Geronimo. Ft. Huachuca was one of those.
Maybe he can call his fence an empowerment zone so whoever lives near it will receive the tax credits as his 999 plan states.
I’m thinking a high tension voltage feed of about 500,000 volts would be appropriate.
“Brent Wilkes, Vice Chair of the National Hispanic Leadership Agenda, said Mr. Cains remarks were reflective of increasingly harsh prescriptions for dealing with illegal immigration being offered by Republican presidential candidates.”
Looks like Cain’s hitting some pay dirt here...
“Notice he didnt mention the tunnels or the ability to very easily defeat the electric fence.”
Ridiculous! People can just lollygag across the Border now,,,, wherever, and whenever, they want to. A true fence makes it much, much harder to cross. Tunnels? Defeating an electric fence? Come on! Very much harder than a wide open border!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m8OnHC7dQ &feature=related
>>>>>>Youve been on Free Republic for the last few days bashing Cain.
Your idea of bashing is my idea of fair criticism. On FR we conservatives always offer honest and fair criticism no matter who the target is.
Btw, look it up on my posts. You'll see. My three choices from the get go have been, Perry, the longshot, Cain, the long long shot and Bachmann, the long long long shot.
Why does it have to be either-or? Do you have two locks on your front door? If so, why not just one?
“If he really said that, hes a bigger idiot than I thought.”
He left out his alligator moats though. Yes, he is sounding like Ron Paul.
Rick Perry supports aerial Surveillance of the border.
I think there may be a hitch with using 20mm tank cannons on folks though, unless we declare open war with Mexico.
Last I checked the troops were pretty busy on the other side of the world.
But here we already have arrived at TWO SOLUTIONS derived boldly from ONE MISTAKE. The solar panels from those bankrupt solar power companies can provide all the electricity we need to power that electric fence in the more remote regions! The public will recover the billions of dollars that would have just gone down the Obama drain ~ and we will have JOBS.
Wow! that really advanced the argument now didn't it? You must be one of those OWS lunatics that we see uttering the same learned responses.
OK, skip the A10 gatling gun idea. How about Predators with Hellfires? They seem to be effective elsewhere. Maybe we can have the same command posts controlling the ones in Yemen as well as the ones on the border.
We have the power to build it on the Mexican side.
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How? By what authority?
“The electrified fence idea won’t work, for the same reason that the plain fence idea won’t work. They will just put a non-conductive tarp over it as they climb over.”
Amazing how many geniuses we have on this site...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5323928
And property rights as well as water rights, and international treaties...
Awesome.
It's just more Red Meat that fits on a bumper sticker:
"Cain in 2012 for Electric Fence in 2013!"
Back in the days of the Lincoln-Douglas Debates, the first candidate spoke for 60 minutes, the second spoke for 90 minutes and then the first candidate spoke again for 30 minutes. Americans back then may their decision based on the full extent of information.
Today, far too many Americans make their decision by reacting to silly Sound Bites made during 30 second responses.
Fence = Good
"No Fence in the middle of the desert" = "Perry supports illegal immigration"
The fact of the matter is THE FENCE STRATEGY ADVOCATED BY PERRY IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE FENCE STRATEGY USED BY THE STATE OF ISRAEL.
One of my old Navy Captains used to say, "Load brain before firing mouth". However, "loading the brain" takes effort. Is is far easier to be a loose cannon and simply fire statements such as:
"No Fence in the middle of the desert sounds like the State of Israel supports Palestinian terrorist infiltrators to me".
"No Fence in the middle of the desert sounds like the Governor of Texas supports supports illegal immigration to me."
Here are the facts:
The map below represents the Israeli Fence on its southern border.
An Israeli Prime Minister would describe it like this:
"Strategic fencing along the border, especially in high traffic areas where manpower alone is insufficient to do the job."
That quote, however, are the words of Governor Perry.
In the areas corresponding to and extending 50 km (31 miles) from the high population areas of Gaza and the Gulf of Acaba shore, the Israelis have built their Fence.
In the middle of nowhere in the Negev Desert (which corresponds to the middle of nowhere in the Texas Desert), THE ISRAELIS HAVE BUILT NO FENCE.
That area can be easily patrolled with air assets and Israeli troops can be sent where needed to easily round up crossers struggling to travel through the middle of the Negev Desert. The Negev Desert region of the southern Israeli border is the EXACT equivalent of the Texas desert regions of the U.S. southern border.
Any crosser stupid enough to attempt to cross a well patrolled desert border is intercepted within an hour when helos appear overhead and "Boots on the Ground" follow shortly thereafter because Rick Perry made them available.
Building a Fence in the middle of the desert does absolutely NOTHING since a Fence in the middle of the desert is defeated in seconds.
Electrify a Fence in the midle of a desert?
It will be subjected to dozens of dynamite attacks daily until it is nothing more the Swiss cheese.
Why have the Israelis adopted this particular Fence strategy?
Because it WORKS.
The Israelis base their defense strategies on what WORKS and not on the knee-jerk emotionalism of "No Fence in the middle of the desert sounds like the State of Israel supports Palestinian terrorist infiltrators to me".
But, why shouldn't Texans just favor building a Fence along it's entire southern border just to please those who claim "No Fence in the middle of the desert sounds like Texans support illegal immigration"?
For very practical reasons.
1.) A FENCE IN THE TEXAS DESERT AREAS WOULD CUT OFF RANCHER'S CATTLE FROM THEIR RIO GRANDE WATER SOURCE.
2.) A FENCE IN THE TEXAS DESERT AREAS WOULD BE A MASSIVE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LAND GRAB THAT WOULD STEAL THE ENTIRE RIO GRANDE RIVERFRONT FROM RIVERFRONT PROPERTY OWNERS AND GIVE IT TO MEXICO.
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