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Live from New Hampshire: GOP Debate
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2011 | Guy Benson

Posted on 10/11/2011 3:18:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

Greetings from the picturesque campus of the Ivy League's Dartmouth College, the site of tonight's Republican presidential tilt.  The Tipsheet will have live coverage of the event, which kicks off at 8:00 pm ET and airs on Bloomberg television (time to break out the TV guide, I suspect).  Before you read my take on what to watch for tonight, check out the latest poll from Gallup, which puts the three top-tier candidates within five points of eachother.


Storylines


(1) Iran: Although the debate is supposed to focus almost exclusively on economic issues, today's breaking news bombshell that the Iranian government has been caught financing and coordinating terrorist attacks against targets inside the United States should absolutely be addressed.  The candidate with the most granular understanding of the issues at play on this subject is Rick Santorum. I'm eager to hear what he, and all of his rivals, have to say.  (Except for Ron Paul, who doesn't think Iranian nuclear aggression is a biggie, and who will find some way to blame us for Iran's poisonous treachery).  Another wrinkle: Could Eric Holder's involvement in this story provide an opening for someone to finally raise Solyndra and/or Fast & Furious in one of these debates? 

(2) Chris Christie's endorsement of Mitt Romney will likely get some play.  Will Rick Perry -- or someone else -- pull the Northeastern RINO card?  A Perry spokesman has already come pretty close

(3) Mormonism: Rick Perry was recently introduced at an event by a pastor who has called Mormonism a "cult."  Today, Mitt Romney demanded that Perry repudiate this view, arguing that the Consitution forbids a religious test for the presidency, and that anti-Mormon bigotry is ugly and has no place in American politics.  A Perry spokesman has already declined to acede Romney's request, calling the issue a "distraction."  I'll be stunned if this kerfuffle doesn't spill over into the debate, and Rick Perry had better be prepared with a damn good answer.

(4) Occupy Wall Street questions are almost inevitable.  The base cannot stand the mob of hippies, communists, anti-capitalists, and sundry lefty hangers-on who comprise the bulk of the "movement."  Organized labor and the Democrat Party establishment are getting on board, too.  He (or she) with the best Occupy Wall Street-related zinger might win one of the biggest headlines tomorrow.


Candidates


Mitt Romney - The former Massachusetts Governor is in his own backyard, leading in the polls, and feeiling buoyed by the Christie "get."  Deep down, he knows that Rush is right:  Absent a tactonic shift in the race, Mitt will be the Republican nominee.  His goal is to keep things moving on the current trajectory.  It will be interesting to see if anyone besides Rick Perry will try to jolt Romney out of cruise control.

Herman Cain - With first-tier status comes first-tier scrutiny (and first-tier stage positioning).  Expect more exploration of Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan, which I called for in an earlier post.  It's been fascinating to watch the Romney-Cain partnership develop over the last few debates.  Neither one has anything bad to say about the other, with Rick Perry hardest hit.  At some point, if Cain is going to win this thing, he's going to have to attack his ally.  Will that first salvo come tonight?

Rick Perry - The guy is still raking in major bucks and has never lost a campaign in his life.  Reports of Perry's demise are -- for now -- premature, but the comeback train has to leave the station soon.  Perry's campaign unleashed a brutal attack ad against Romneycare this week.  Almost on cue (arguably, directly on cue), the White House has leaked the story that several top Romney healthcare advisors were actively involved in crafting Obamacare.  If ever there were a time to really tee off on the frontrunner, tonight would be the night.  Perry's probably got the most to gain, and he seems to enjoy mixing it up, so he'll likely lead the charge.  But will be be able to pull it off succinctly and convincingly, unlike his slow-motion trainwreck in Orlando?  The good news: Perry's son says his dad will be "well-rested" this time.

Newt Gingrich - I briefly heard Newt compare Occupy Wall Street to the Tea Party movement on a local radio show this morning.  I wonder what he means by that, and whether he's read Ann Coulter's column on the subject.

Rick Santorum - The former Senator's expertise and greatest appeal to primary voters lie in the realms of foreign affairs and social issues.  Does this mean he'll he flounder in an economic debate?  Not at all, but he may feel less relevant.

Jon Huntsman - He needs a strong showing in New Hampshire to justify the continuation of his campaign, so Romney's the guy to beat.  But some anti-Mormon rhetoric has seeped into this race over the last few days, and Huntsman might join forces with Romney to beat it back.

Michele Bachmann - One of her previous high water marks came here in the Granite State, when she made a stellar debate debut in June.  She'll try to recapture the magic tonight.

Ron Paul - The retiring Texas Representative says many of his "extreme" views of three years ago have been vindicated by intervening events, and have now gained broader credibility and acceptance.  He'll have another chance to explain why tonight.


Tonight's debate is being co-sponsored by Bloomberg, the Washington Post, and a local television station.  Between Romneycare, Mormonism, and the "Occupy" mob, there could be major fireworks on tap.  Tune in, and follow our live chat here at Townhall.


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To: Southnsoul

Because....’giggle, giggle’ she wants to be VP...Oh Mitt...please choose me, me, me....

Sickening. They practically had a love fest at the beginning of the last debate. Kissing and her, looking up into his eyes adoringly. Made me want to vomit.


1,641 posted on 10/11/2011 8:14:03 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (HANK 2012)
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To: LUV W

Listen to Romney, He is a fast talker he tries to bamboozle people with BS.

He thinks he is smart with his snappy rejoinder and smooth ass hyper cadence.


1,642 posted on 10/11/2011 8:14:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: buckcountygardener

Perry was not only cut out of the debate but Tumulty looked at him with such hate when she questioned him and kept interrupting to change her question.

Perry actually did VERY well because he got the opportunity to answer all those accusations that Bachman lobbed his way and the press repeated, about crony capitalism in Texas. He said that the state legislature was completely in control of the funding and then Tumulty said what about... and Perry answered that was when he was still the Lt. Gov., not the Governor.


1,643 posted on 10/11/2011 8:15:43 PM PDT by Eva
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To: South40

Third grade debating tactics... “liar liar”.... infantile.


1,644 posted on 10/11/2011 8:15:51 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: McGavin999

95% of voters will watch the final presidential debates between the Kenyan socialist Obama and our nominee. I am petrified if Perry performs like he has been doing so far in those debates.


1,645 posted on 10/11/2011 8:15:57 PM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: RitaOK

You have the nerve to call someone else a liar while DENYING your own snide remark about Cain. You were not praising Cain or speaking of him with admiration because if you were, you have a multiple personality disorder...just a few moments before the “favorite uncle” comment, you were slamming him as a “socialist supporter”... nice try to attack someone else for calling you out on your sniping, but those of us who can read ain’t buying it...


1,646 posted on 10/11/2011 8:17:20 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: PAConservative1
Perry is falling like a rock and for good reason. That's part of what makes his supporters so hateful.


1,647 posted on 10/11/2011 8:17:30 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: RitaOK
CAIN NEVER. He is in bed with the socialist, Romney and sand bagging you down the primrose lane,

Have you heard Cain's position on government health care? If you had, you'd know that he thinks very little of Mitt Romney.

Cain Schools Clinton

1,648 posted on 10/11/2011 8:17:38 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: plain talk

Of the folks that know of the plan , I suspect only 1% have read the plan.
I reads like snake oil.

http://www.hermancain.com/999plan


1,649 posted on 10/11/2011 8:17:37 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: wmfights
I like, and still like Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich<<<

That could be a strong ticket. If Gingrich is VP he could handle special projects.

And the very first special project Perry should give to Newt is to kick Barack Obama's butt right out the White House door. No one could do that better than Newt, and he'd probably quote something from page 115,559, 233 of the Obamacare bill as he did it!

1,650 posted on 10/11/2011 8:17:38 PM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving so many whoppers.)
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Watching the re-air.

What an annoying Leftwing shill from WAPO.


1,651 posted on 10/11/2011 8:17:47 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: wmfights; shield; mylife; samtheman
Thanks for that analysis. You have made me feel better.

Romney's slick blabbermouth demeanor gave me a headache...He talks talks talks and says nothing substantial. And in my gut, I just can't trust him!

I wanted to see Perry hit a home run but he was better than in any other debate. He certainly didn't get much opportunity to respond but when he did, his answers made good sense and his principles were conservative.

1,652 posted on 10/11/2011 8:17:57 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (*OMG ........means Obama Must Go in 2012!)
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To: mylife

I think you nailed it.

I think more of Michele than you seem to, though. :)


1,653 posted on 10/11/2011 8:18:11 PM PDT by luvie (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Yeah, and just like any other typical guy, he’ll leave her at the alter waiting.

Romney may want to duplicate and 1-up McCain by getting a woman to the WH, but the woman will not be Bachmann. And it won’t be Palin either. It would most likely be Ayotte. Or he could take Herman Cain.


1,654 posted on 10/11/2011 8:19:31 PM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: antceecee
Third grade debating tactics... “liar liar”.... infantile.

Indeed. They may not like what I have to say about their hero but I have not lied.

1,655 posted on 10/11/2011 8:19:31 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: federal__reserve

LOL, sure, just like everyone gave back the fuel surcharge when the oil dropped a few years back. It doesn’t happen. Your employer will not, no matter how good you are, end up giving you more of a raise then he’s alreayd planning on giving you. Not going to happen. Also, who is going to expain to the mom with 10 kids that she’s going to have to pay around 18% sales tax on everything she buys, and there will be 9% coming out of her paycheck instead of the 7.65% she has coming out now? Please, it’s insane. It would take 10 years to get a constitutional amendment through congress and be ratifed by the states. What do you think would happen to the 999 during those 10 years?


1,656 posted on 10/11/2011 8:19:40 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Please don't be a Freeploader, help to keep the lights on.)
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To: Mozilla
Don’t get why she isn’t going to challenge him.

Sure you do! ;) It was like that from the beginning w/her.
1,657 posted on 10/11/2011 8:19:40 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: wmfights

Perry is sunk. No two ways about it. Cain is it since Bachmann is imploding. And I want Bachmann but no chance. Even I know when to stop beating a dead horse. But we’ll see.


1,658 posted on 10/11/2011 8:20:19 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Outlaw Woman

Haven’t even been following the thread but saw oour comment and all I have to say is: <<<

1600 comments deep and then some would leave one wondering which among that number tickled your funny bone? :)


1,659 posted on 10/11/2011 8:20:29 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: Scythian

Choosing between Myth and Perrywinkle is like choosing between horse and dog excrement. I sincerely hope it never comes down to that.


1,660 posted on 10/11/2011 8:21:04 PM PDT by PAConservative1 (Cain/Palin 2012)
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