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Live from New Hampshire: GOP Debate
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2011 | Guy Benson

Posted on 10/11/2011 3:18:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

Greetings from the picturesque campus of the Ivy League's Dartmouth College, the site of tonight's Republican presidential tilt.  The Tipsheet will have live coverage of the event, which kicks off at 8:00 pm ET and airs on Bloomberg television (time to break out the TV guide, I suspect).  Before you read my take on what to watch for tonight, check out the latest poll from Gallup, which puts the three top-tier candidates within five points of eachother.


Storylines


(1) Iran: Although the debate is supposed to focus almost exclusively on economic issues, today's breaking news bombshell that the Iranian government has been caught financing and coordinating terrorist attacks against targets inside the United States should absolutely be addressed.  The candidate with the most granular understanding of the issues at play on this subject is Rick Santorum. I'm eager to hear what he, and all of his rivals, have to say.  (Except for Ron Paul, who doesn't think Iranian nuclear aggression is a biggie, and who will find some way to blame us for Iran's poisonous treachery).  Another wrinkle: Could Eric Holder's involvement in this story provide an opening for someone to finally raise Solyndra and/or Fast & Furious in one of these debates? 

(2) Chris Christie's endorsement of Mitt Romney will likely get some play.  Will Rick Perry -- or someone else -- pull the Northeastern RINO card?  A Perry spokesman has already come pretty close

(3) Mormonism: Rick Perry was recently introduced at an event by a pastor who has called Mormonism a "cult."  Today, Mitt Romney demanded that Perry repudiate this view, arguing that the Consitution forbids a religious test for the presidency, and that anti-Mormon bigotry is ugly and has no place in American politics.  A Perry spokesman has already declined to acede Romney's request, calling the issue a "distraction."  I'll be stunned if this kerfuffle doesn't spill over into the debate, and Rick Perry had better be prepared with a damn good answer.

(4) Occupy Wall Street questions are almost inevitable.  The base cannot stand the mob of hippies, communists, anti-capitalists, and sundry lefty hangers-on who comprise the bulk of the "movement."  Organized labor and the Democrat Party establishment are getting on board, too.  He (or she) with the best Occupy Wall Street-related zinger might win one of the biggest headlines tomorrow.


Candidates


Mitt Romney - The former Massachusetts Governor is in his own backyard, leading in the polls, and feeiling buoyed by the Christie "get."  Deep down, he knows that Rush is right:  Absent a tactonic shift in the race, Mitt will be the Republican nominee.  His goal is to keep things moving on the current trajectory.  It will be interesting to see if anyone besides Rick Perry will try to jolt Romney out of cruise control.

Herman Cain - With first-tier status comes first-tier scrutiny (and first-tier stage positioning).  Expect more exploration of Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan, which I called for in an earlier post.  It's been fascinating to watch the Romney-Cain partnership develop over the last few debates.  Neither one has anything bad to say about the other, with Rick Perry hardest hit.  At some point, if Cain is going to win this thing, he's going to have to attack his ally.  Will that first salvo come tonight?

Rick Perry - The guy is still raking in major bucks and has never lost a campaign in his life.  Reports of Perry's demise are -- for now -- premature, but the comeback train has to leave the station soon.  Perry's campaign unleashed a brutal attack ad against Romneycare this week.  Almost on cue (arguably, directly on cue), the White House has leaked the story that several top Romney healthcare advisors were actively involved in crafting Obamacare.  If ever there were a time to really tee off on the frontrunner, tonight would be the night.  Perry's probably got the most to gain, and he seems to enjoy mixing it up, so he'll likely lead the charge.  But will be be able to pull it off succinctly and convincingly, unlike his slow-motion trainwreck in Orlando?  The good news: Perry's son says his dad will be "well-rested" this time.

Newt Gingrich - I briefly heard Newt compare Occupy Wall Street to the Tea Party movement on a local radio show this morning.  I wonder what he means by that, and whether he's read Ann Coulter's column on the subject.

Rick Santorum - The former Senator's expertise and greatest appeal to primary voters lie in the realms of foreign affairs and social issues.  Does this mean he'll he flounder in an economic debate?  Not at all, but he may feel less relevant.

Jon Huntsman - He needs a strong showing in New Hampshire to justify the continuation of his campaign, so Romney's the guy to beat.  But some anti-Mormon rhetoric has seeped into this race over the last few days, and Huntsman might join forces with Romney to beat it back.

Michele Bachmann - One of her previous high water marks came here in the Granite State, when she made a stellar debate debut in June.  She'll try to recapture the magic tonight.

Ron Paul - The retiring Texas Representative says many of his "extreme" views of three years ago have been vindicated by intervening events, and have now gained broader credibility and acceptance.  He'll have another chance to explain why tonight.


Tonight's debate is being co-sponsored by Bloomberg, the Washington Post, and a local television station.  Between Romneycare, Mormonism, and the "Occupy" mob, there could be major fireworks on tap.  Tune in, and follow our live chat here at Townhall.


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To: GOPsterinMA

What is his baggage?


1,321 posted on 10/11/2011 7:00:30 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: samtheman

They all comported themselves well, far superior to Obama.


1,322 posted on 10/11/2011 7:00:40 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: mylife
1 million uninsured in Texas equates to 4%

Throw in illegal aliens, and it's probably 25% in Texas...But then again, the conga-line of illegals dancing into Dallas Parkland Hospital, 1,000 anchor babies per month, is all on the tax payers tab.

1,323 posted on 10/11/2011 7:00:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Longbow1969

He isn’t even that good of a speaker.
We have a guy in office now that bamboozles with BS.

I Like Herman, but he showed cracks in the armor tonight.
When he got put in a corner he just yells Nine Nine Nine!


1,324 posted on 10/11/2011 7:00:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I just wanted him not to poop himself. He did that and more. Debates are not how Perry wins elections. He wins elections through his campaigning and the buttload of money he brings in. I’m very relieved and I guarantee you his numbers will climb after this.


1,325 posted on 10/11/2011 7:00:47 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for a really good thread!! I missed some towards the end because the phone rang...twice!!!

Good discussion, folks.


1,326 posted on 10/11/2011 7:00:53 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Sun
I guess women should always act like gentleladies and know their place.

No, but Bachmann's approach just doesn't come across as presidential and I think that explains why her polling has cratered. She sounded so shrill and hysterical on the HPV stuff and I think it really, really hurt her.

Bachmann is right on almost every issue. I probably agree with her more than any other candidate, but she just doesn't come across terribly well and I think she's mostly been dismissed as not presidential material.

1,327 posted on 10/11/2011 7:01:14 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: editor-surveyor

That’s one hour of my life i’m not getting back.

Why did Perry allow Mitt to filibuster, a typical Democrat trait?

I actually slumped in my chair, falling asleep-like when Mitt was answering
a question. He just talks and talks. He’s a friggin’ wind up doll.

Mitt gets most favored mean Republican candidate from the moderators.

Is Charlie Rose incoherent or is it just me? I think Andy Rooney would
have been better and he’s 90.


1,328 posted on 10/11/2011 7:01:33 PM PDT by preamble
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To: Meet the New Boss

Perry is a great man but he is slow. He can’t win this.


1,329 posted on 10/11/2011 7:01:33 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: abigailsmybaby

Three wives, two of whom he “courted” while married to the previous ones.


1,330 posted on 10/11/2011 7:01:36 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Bushbacker1

Newt knows he’s not going to get elected as President...therefore he’s saying whatever the hell he wants, which is alot of what we’re all thinking. So, he looks good.

VP ... maybe.


1,331 posted on 10/11/2011 7:01:43 PM PDT by txmissy
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

>LOL! I don’t know if I can see Crazy Eyes as First Lady . . .<

The press would have a field day. Especially the photographers.


1,332 posted on 10/11/2011 7:01:45 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Mozilla

Indeed Romney train has Cain as the assistant train conductor. So no thanks for both characters. I am sticking with Perry.


1,333 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:04 PM PDT by jgge
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To: Kaslin

Most of the contenders handled themselves pretty well tonight.

Cain and his support of Greenspan was probably the most self-inflicted damage, especially after Paul’s scathing review of the Greenspan economy.

Gingrich always has good comments. He seems more advisory than presidential, however.


1,334 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:11 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Kaslin

If some can forgive Perry for campaigning for Gore and/or Romney for Romneycare, can we forgive Newt already? He is sounding good to me right now.


1,335 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:15 PM PDT by Skeez (O)
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To: Kaslin

why did Romney ask Bachmann that non question question?


1,336 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:15 PM PDT by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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To: Calliecat

After tonight:

Would vote for:
Newt
Santorum
Perry

On the fence about:
Cain
Bachmann

Will NEVER vote for:
Paul
Romney
Huntsman


1,337 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:14 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: Netizen
I was wondering though, is the federal reserve something that needs to change with the times? Is the ever changing global economy a factor?

Ron Paul probably wasn't too far off when he said the Fed is the recession causer and depression causer. It was the main cause of the Great Depression and probably several recessions by either restricting the money supply too much, or expanding it too much and causing inflation.

The Fed probably needs to just keep the money supply stable and interest rates reasonable so that there is some return to savers and it's not too expensive for borrowers. Then they can make some adjustments to increase or decrease the money supply, but going to either extreme causes real problems.

I'm not a fan of globalism so I don't think in terms of changing the Fed to accommodate the global economy.

1,338 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:18 PM PDT by Will88
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To: DRey

He is tired....he works like a horse....you can’t slow him down...he goes to bed early learned that as a farm boy.


1,339 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:27 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Bushbacker1

I know.

I do like his ability to control the mood of the debate, but I have serious reservations about Charismatics.


1,340 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:32 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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