Posted on 10/11/2011 3:18:34 PM PDT by Kaslin
Greetings from the picturesque campus of the Ivy League's Dartmouth College, the site of tonight's Republican presidential tilt. The Tipsheet will have live coverage of the event, which kicks off at 8:00 pm ET and airs on Bloomberg television (time to break out the TV guide, I suspect). Before you read my take on what to watch for tonight, check out the latest poll from Gallup, which puts the three top-tier candidates within five points of eachother.
Storylines
(1) Iran: Although the debate is supposed to focus almost exclusively on economic issues, today's breaking news bombshell that the Iranian government has been caught financing and coordinating terrorist attacks against targets inside the United States should absolutely be addressed. The candidate with the most granular understanding of the issues at play on this subject is Rick Santorum. I'm eager to hear what he, and all of his rivals, have to say. (Except for Ron Paul, who doesn't think Iranian nuclear aggression is a biggie, and who will find some way to blame us for Iran's poisonous treachery). Another wrinkle: Could Eric Holder's involvement in this story provide an opening for someone to finally raise Solyndra and/or Fast & Furious in one of these debates?
(2) Chris Christie's endorsement of Mitt Romney will likely get some play. Will Rick Perry -- or someone else -- pull the Northeastern RINO card? A Perry spokesman has already come pretty close.
(3) Mormonism: Rick Perry was recently introduced at an event by a pastor who has called Mormonism a "cult." Today, Mitt Romney demanded that Perry repudiate this view, arguing that the Consitution forbids a religious test for the presidency, and that anti-Mormon bigotry is ugly and has no place in American politics. A Perry spokesman has already declined to acede Romney's request, calling the issue a "distraction." I'll be stunned if this kerfuffle doesn't spill over into the debate, and Rick Perry had better be prepared with a damn good answer.
(4) Occupy Wall Street questions are almost inevitable. The base cannot stand the mob of hippies, communists, anti-capitalists, and sundry lefty hangers-on who comprise the bulk of the "movement." Organized labor and the Democrat Party establishment are getting on board, too. He (or she) with the best Occupy Wall Street-related zinger might win one of the biggest headlines tomorrow.
Candidates
Mitt Romney - The former Massachusetts Governor is in his own backyard, leading in the polls, and feeiling buoyed by the Christie "get." Deep down, he knows that Rush is right: Absent a tactonic shift in the race, Mitt will be the Republican nominee. His goal is to keep things moving on the current trajectory. It will be interesting to see if anyone besides Rick Perry will try to jolt Romney out of cruise control.
Herman Cain - With first-tier status comes first-tier scrutiny (and first-tier stage positioning). Expect more exploration of Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan, which I called for in an earlier post. It's been fascinating to watch the Romney-Cain partnership develop over the last few debates. Neither one has anything bad to say about the other, with Rick Perry hardest hit. At some point, if Cain is going to win this thing, he's going to have to attack his ally. Will that first salvo come tonight?
Rick Perry - The guy is still raking in major bucks and has never lost a campaign in his life. Reports of Perry's demise are -- for now -- premature, but the comeback train has to leave the station soon. Perry's campaign unleashed a brutal attack ad against Romneycare this week. Almost on cue (arguably, directly on cue), the White House has leaked the story that several top Romney healthcare advisors were actively involved in crafting Obamacare. If ever there were a time to really tee off on the frontrunner, tonight would be the night. Perry's probably got the most to gain, and he seems to enjoy mixing it up, so he'll likely lead the charge. But will be be able to pull it off succinctly and convincingly, unlike his slow-motion trainwreck in Orlando? The good news: Perry's son says his dad will be "well-rested" this time.
Newt Gingrich - I briefly heard Newt compare Occupy Wall Street to the Tea Party movement on a local radio show this morning. I wonder what he means by that, and whether he's read Ann Coulter's column on the subject.
Rick Santorum - The former Senator's expertise and greatest appeal to primary voters lie in the realms of foreign affairs and social issues. Does this mean he'll he flounder in an economic debate? Not at all, but he may feel less relevant.
Jon Huntsman - He needs a strong showing in New Hampshire to justify the continuation of his campaign, so Romney's the guy to beat. But some anti-Mormon rhetoric has seeped into this race over the last few days, and Huntsman might join forces with Romney to beat it back.
Michele Bachmann - One of her previous high water marks came here in the Granite State, when she made a stellar debate debut in June. She'll try to recapture the magic tonight.
Ron Paul - The retiring Texas Representative says many of his "extreme" views of three years ago have been vindicated by intervening events, and have now gained broader credibility and acceptance. He'll have another chance to explain why tonight.
Tonight's debate is being co-sponsored by Bloomberg, the Washington Post, and a local television station. Between Romneycare, Mormonism, and the "Occupy" mob, there could be major fireworks on tap. Tune in, and follow our live chat here at Townhall.
And you know there are some out there, and here on FR, who were all lovestruck with the mere thought of a Donald Trump (he of how many bankruptcy filings?) candidacy but dismiss Cain as "a pizza guy."
I'm tempted to pull the race card on those folks.
Very good summary. I agree with it. Wish Romney was not the winner though. I’ll take Newt over Romney anyday. I can see through Romney more and more and I don’t like what I see.
Yup, not a chance it passes and no thanks on the consumption tax anyway.
But Cain is a really good speaker. He is constantly impressive and quick on his feet. Aside from 999 which I don't support, I do like a lot about Herman and he seems to be a very good on other issues. One of the main things I'm looking for is someone that can intellectually communicate why conservative governance is the correct path forward, and Cain really does exceedingly well in this area. It just isn't enough to be right on most issues, we need someone that can really move public opinion and explain to people why socialism fails and free markets work.
Should be, "I would work" of course.
Are you saying if your payroll tax of 15.3% on your GROSS paycheck is cut, you would have a problem with a 9% sales tax on the pitiful amount of your discretionary spending amount?
For example if your paycheck is $50,000, you are paying $7650 in payroll tax! Out of that 50,000, after you pay federal tax, state tax, city tax, mortgage, car payment, savings, how much money you have left to buy stuff with? It is not a difficult arithmetic. My guess you will have less than $20,000 left to spend on which you will pay less than $1800 federal sales tax.
Are you serious in saying you prefer to give up $7650 tax break to avoid paying $1800 in sales tax? If yes, good luck in your finances.
Agreed. Newt would absolutely destroy Obama in a debate.
99 Restaurant, 9 menu entrees for $9.99. (A subsidiary of Godfather's Pizza)
If the bloom slips off the rose on Cain, I’ll be looking for someone else to enter the race. I’ve already taken a good, hard look at Perry’s record.
Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin.
I am going to work my behind off to ensure that I do NOT have to make the choice between Romney and Obama. I hope everybody here will do the same.
For me, that includes being willing to jump to ANYBODY else’s candidate who shows they can beat Romney.
So far, the only candidate who has shown any ability to pass by Romney is Perry, but he fell back down to earth. Cain looked like he was going there, but has levelled off, and looks like at best a strong second to Romney. That won’t do.
Bachmann was doing well before the Iowa straw poll, but then she fell apart.
Frankly, if I didn’t know that so many conservatives are just turned off by Newt, I might even be jumping on HIS bandwagon. He might go down in flames, but it would be a fun trip.
So now I’m holding out hope that either Cain inherits a functional campaign (like maybe Santorum drops out or something?), or Perry’s back gets better so he can get off the pain medication, stop looking like he’s wearing a back brace, and go back to being the guy who I’ve seen kick serious butt before.
Why does Rick Perry seem tired again here at the end of the debate? Is he one of those super-early risers? Is he still on back meds?
I thought it was very genuine.
>>Po ... lord, I hate it when millionaires try to speak in the vernacular..<<
My Dad would fall back into his southern accent. It wasn’t vernacular, it was natural.
Yep. Not only is his proposal stupid but Cain apparently doesn't even see the problem you just described.
Newty and Pelosi sitting on a couch, K-I-S-S-I-N-G! Adoring Global Warming he and she!
The country is split 40-30-30, with conservatives having a strong plurality but difficulty getting to 51.
This makes two-way races very hard for us.
Romney and Obama are going to split the 60% commie-RINO coalition right down the middle.
How many conservative votes do you think Romney will get if the conservative candidate is not a paranoid dwarf from Texas with no political experience?
You guys keep saying Romney and a conservative will split the conservative vote. That makes no sense at all.
The reality is that the "real conservative" vote won't go much over 40%, because it can't.
THEREFORE, a three way or four way race is exactly what is required to elect a conservative.
OMG. I can sooo agree with that!
It threw curves to Bachmann and Perry that is for sure. The one winning the straw polls is Herman Cain. Who else is left?
Newty and Pelosi sitting on a couch, K-I-S-S-I-N-G! Adoring Global Warming he and she!
I just figured it out. He’s trying to show his “sensitive” side, and it makes him seem tired.
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