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Cops: Amish clan attacks family
Tribune Chronicle: Warren, Ohio ^

Posted on 10/07/2011 8:04:54 AM PDT by wendell

MESOPOTAMIA (Ohio)- The invasion of a Mesopotamia home in which a man's beard and a woman's hair were cut was one in a series of Amish-on-Amish attacks across four eastern Ohio counties, including two on Tuesday, investigators said.

The attacks were carried out by members of a group of Amish religious castoffs near Bergholz over spiritual differences, Jefferson County Sheriff Fred Abdalla said Thursday.

The Amish men known as the ''Bergholz Clan,'' led by Bishop Sam Mullet, are under investigation by at least four sheriff's departments. No arrests have been made but investigators said they plan to file assault and burglary charges.

Abdalla contacted Trumbull County Sheriff Thomas Altiere last month to notify him of a possible unreported attack Sept. 6 at 4088 state Route 87. Abdalla said he found out when attackers returned to his county with the hair and beard cuttings to prove to Mullet that his orders were carried out.

Lt. Richard McBride said that when he went to the home last month, at first he encountered resistance from resident Barbara Miller. After some coaxing, Miller pointed to her husband, whose beard had been cut, and said, "They did that to him," the sheriff's report states.

Then she removed the bandanna she was wearing, revealing several patches of missing hair. "And they did this to me," she told McBride.

(Excerpt) Read more at tribtoday.com ...


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KEYWORDS: amish; amishjihad
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To: wendell

Jon Stewart could include this ‘Mesopotamia’ segment on his show!


61 posted on 10/07/2011 9:32:04 AM PDT by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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To: Iron Munro
photo

Sarasota Amish---  yup they also like to spend time in Florida in the winter. They had a restaurant that was pretty darn good


62 posted on 10/07/2011 9:35:12 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: wendell

oh my gosh, they cut their hair???

babaric!!

This will only escalate until the pigs lose their tails!!


63 posted on 10/07/2011 9:41:23 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: wendell
Times must be tough. Even the Amish are getting a bit testy.
64 posted on 10/07/2011 9:50:08 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Looking forward to kicking Chicago out of Washington.)
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To: Madam Theophilus
I find this story very sad.

I read this last night and found it very sad, before it was posted here.

It is even sadder that people find it amusing.

65 posted on 10/07/2011 9:55:44 AM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (You can keep repeating it, but it does not make it true. It only makes it propaganda.)
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To: wendell

When it comes to the Amish, the thing to remember is “It all depends”.
It all depends on the church district.
Some groups do believe Christ’s sacrifice on the Cross was enough, some aren’t sure.
Clothing is a matter of modesty and humility, buttons are decorative. The age at which a girl switches from buttons to pins-depends. Here in Ohio it’s more likely to be puberty. In some Ohio groups the young girls wear black prayer coverings.
When the men begin to grow beards-depends. In Ohio the man begins to grow a beard when he joins the church, even before marriage. In PA they wait until marriage.
In PA bicycles are forbidden, in Ohio they are ubiquitous.
In Ohio you can purchase buggies with turn signals and flashing strobe lights that run on batteries. I have seen a buggy with pinstriping and a Budweiser poster on the inside wall.


66 posted on 10/07/2011 9:57:48 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: GonzoGOP

*snort* Love that video. Man’s a genius!


67 posted on 10/07/2011 9:59:35 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Eva

The Amish aren’t as wonderful as you would think.


68 posted on 10/07/2011 10:04:17 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Calgon,take me away.)
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To: Madam Theophilus
Hence you can find A LOT of strife among the Amish.

During a recent stay at a Lancaster County PA B&B I read (ok, skimmed is a better term) a history of the Amish. I was amazed by the number of schisms, the absurdity of the disagreements and the petty meanness of all parties involved. Give a drink to a thisty non-Amish neighbor? Thou be shunned! Do it again? Thou and thy family be cast out!! Do not let the dutch-doors hit thou in thine buttocks!! Such was the grounds of the first schism, while the Amish were still in Europe living under the German princes, and only a few years after they were founded. It just got worse from there.

We ate at some place that had the "Amish Family Tree" on the placemats. It looked like a pile of spaghetti with the name "Yoder" for meatballs. I lost track at over fifty different groups. Each group has their own laws and customs. Most don't associate with the others. Crazy. Worse than Baptists, and that is saying something.

Darn good cookin', though.

69 posted on 10/07/2011 10:08:10 AM PDT by jboot
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To: dennisw
HERETICS!!! They have PEDALS on thier bikes!!!

You see a lot of Amish in Lancaster Co. riding "bikes"...but all are made without pedals, chains or drive gears. I don't actually know what those vehicles are called, or where the Amish get them. They look terribly inconvenient. I'd just walk.

70 posted on 10/07/2011 10:14:45 AM PDT by jboot
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To: jboot

It *is* amazing how many schisms are in the Amish churches. We attended a friend’s wedding which had several different Amish also attend. You could tell that various bishops were represented by the women’s different head coverings and dress patterns. Each bishop dictates his own version. Each group kept to its own company, so the wedding reception was divided into the various Amish groups and then “the English.”

Yes, the food is great! We also like the organic vegetable and fruit stands scattered around the neighborhood.


71 posted on 10/07/2011 10:49:53 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: Madam Theophilus
Interesting. Sad, too. As for the food, there is Moravian "Pennsylvania Dutch" blood in my family, but not Amish that I know of. My great-grandmother was an accomplished cook and passed all the ancient dutch recipes on to my grandmother. Now that she is gone I occasionally prepare some of the noodle dishes myself. (But not often or we would be as fat as ticks...you have to do heavy work to burn off all those calories.) So going to a Dutch country restaurant is a special treat for me.

I miss the cheeses, though. There used to be a bunch of utterly delicious "farmers cheeses" sold at the stands (NOT the faux "farmers cheese" they sell down at Whole Foods-these were made with raw ingredients using traditional methods). The various health departments shut that stuff down about 25 yesrs ago. My favorite was called Kusten Cheese or Ball Cheese. It looked like a baseball and had a rubbery, edible rind and a soft core. Went great with beer. Whenever I saw it I would buy the farmer out. I'm now trying to get a recipe...

72 posted on 10/07/2011 11:29:48 AM PDT by jboot
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To: jboot

That photo was from flickr and was titled Amish in Sarasota. But perhaps they were really Mennonite. I do know for fact that plenty of Amish get down to Sarasota in the winter for a respite. Then again perhaps they are Amish and have some kind of vacation exemption to use bicycles since horse (poop) and buggies would not be allowed in Sarasota.

In Sarasota I did see quite a few of them (Amish? Mennonite?) on those very stable large adult tricycles. I cannot tell Amish from Mennonite


73 posted on 10/07/2011 11:55:43 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: jboot

You see a lot of Amish in Lancaster Co. riding “bikes”...but all are made without pedals, chains or drive gears.>>>>>>>>

They might be kick bikes. Large scooters w bicycle size wheels. You’ll see images on the internet


74 posted on 10/07/2011 11:58:03 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

All Amish jokes aside, Home Invasions as an extension of sectarian disputes are not kosher.


75 posted on 10/07/2011 12:40:07 PM PDT by Jagermonster (TANSTAAFL)
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To: wendell

Bergholz is a long way from Mesopotamia. I live about 25 minutes drive from Mespopotamia. Bergholz is about 1.5/2hours drive south of there. Lots of effort for a home invasion. Must be much more to the story.


76 posted on 10/07/2011 12:45:53 PM PDT by Jagermonster (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Jagermonster
I was watching a special on the Nat Geo channel about the Amish. There was a teenage boy saying that there is a lot of abuse in the Amish community which outsiders do not know about since they do not report such incidences to outside authorities.
77 posted on 10/07/2011 1:01:48 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Calgon,take me away.)
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To: WayneS

Joke not so funny in my daughter’s neighborhood.
The younger guys actually DO violate deer.
Also they are known to tresspass and climb trees on other folk’s property to do the deed.
Daughter told one daddy black hat that she was going out with her chain saw and cut down the tree his young’uns was in if she caught them on her place again.
I have also have seen a cart loaded with teenage boys and pulled by one poor lathered, wheezing pony. I met them on a backwoods trail and took my time passing them to give the poor thing a breather.
At least teens hot rodding cars aren’t abusing poor helpless animals.That having been said I do not feel that all of them are like this. Like any group there’s good and bad.
They just aren’t as special as some would have you think.


78 posted on 10/07/2011 8:12:27 PM PDT by bog trotter
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To: wendell

RE: “some have little lights on the back”..
Yeah, and some of them don’t.
Nearly ruined our vacation one year.
We were headed out early in the morning before sunrise. Fully loaded, camper and kids when out of the fog a buggy swerved right in front of us!!
My husband locked up the brakes and barely avoided a crash and the gal driving never even looked our way.
Grrrrr


79 posted on 10/07/2011 8:18:03 PM PDT by bog trotter
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To: wendell
OMG! They ARE terrorists.

Who knew!

80 posted on 10/07/2011 8:30:52 PM PDT by evad (Obama needs to show us his green card)
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