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House Republicans to Request Special Counsel to Probe Holder on 'Fast and Furious'
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Posted on 10/04/2011 9:49:20 AM PDT by sunmars

EXCLUSIVE: House Republicans are going to call for a special counsel to determine whether Attorney General Holder perjured himself during his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee on Operation Fast and Furious, Fox News has learned.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, is sending a letter to President Obama arguing that Holder cannot investigate himself and will request a probe by a special counsel.

The question is whether Holder committed perjury during a Judiciary Committee hearing in May. At the time, Holder indicated he was not familiar with with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives program known as Fast and Furious.

However, a newly discovered memo dated July 2010 shows Michael Walther, director of the National Drug Intelligence Center, told Holder that straw buyers in the Fast and Furious operation "are responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to the Mexican drug trafficking cartels."

In response to the Monday release of that and other documents, the Justice Department said Holder was confused by the question, and that he was answering about when he first learned of the "troubling tactics" of the program, not the name of it.

But House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., told Fox News on Tuesday morning that Holder saying he didn't understand the question rather than he didn't know of the program is not a successful defense to perjury.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/04/house-republicans-to-request-special-counsel-to-probe-holder-on-fast-and/#ixzz1ZpfAxeQ7

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To: little jeremiah; ichabod1

Yep. I know but also don’t trust them.


141 posted on 10/04/2011 1:32:37 PM PDT by b4its2late ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8")
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To: sunmars
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142 posted on 10/04/2011 1:38:50 PM PDT by b4its2late ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8")
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To: TigersEye

Copying for emphasis (can’t do bullet points though):


ACORN traffics in underage foreign prostitutes and 0bama cuts out $7 billion dollars of Stimulus cash for ACORN.

ATF traffics in full-auto weapons to Mexican drug cartels and 0bama’s AG doesn’t know a thing.

The CIA traffics in shoulder-fired rockets and other high-powered weapons to a Mexican drug cartel and the SecState knows nothing.

The DOJ is cutting deals with Mexican drug cartels.

We’ve got a narco-human slave-arms trafficking Milosevic in the WH.


143 posted on 10/04/2011 1:39:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Gator113
Good news. I would love to see Holder completely destroyed. Same with Obama.

Again. Before hussein goes down, he'll implement "scorched earth", just like the Iraqi hussein did before his empire collapsed.
144 posted on 10/04/2011 1:54:06 PM PDT by crosshairs (The U.S. has sown to the winds and now its going to reap the whirlwind.)
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To: crosshairs

I don’t doubt it, because he’s already doing it. It will just get worse.


145 posted on 10/04/2011 1:59:37 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Michael Barnes

Please explain yur comment.


146 posted on 10/04/2011 2:00:05 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: reaganbooster

I think you have an excellent idea. Why not forward that idea to all of the campaigns and make it an issue on the next debate. Congratulations on your ingenuity and creative thinking. I would love to see State-run, lame-stream media types squirming in their collective seats!!!


147 posted on 10/04/2011 2:11:46 PM PDT by Mr. Wright (i)
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To: mc5cents

[ I prefer beheadings...

So did the French...]

And that is a road that leads directly to tyranny.


148 posted on 10/04/2011 2:20:47 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: sunmars

OK folks....we’ve been here before and we know the drill...As the noose tightens around the Obamao administration (no pun intended) and this story grows legs, there is one question we should all be asking...

WHAT HUGE NATIONAL OR INTERNATIONAL EVENT WILL SUDDENLY EXPLODE OVER THE AIRWAVES, DISTRACTING ATTENTION AWAY FROM F&F???

(F&F is proof in and of itself that you can not put ANYTHING past these crooks)


149 posted on 10/04/2011 2:34:31 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: sunmars

God Bless Rep Issa!


150 posted on 10/04/2011 2:49:37 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: rottndog

[ WHAT HUGE NATIONAL OR INTERNATIONAL EVENT WILL SUDDENLY EXPLODE OVER THE AIRWAVES, DISTRACTING ATTENTION AWAY FROM F&F??? ]

Union Riots in multiple Cities coutesy of SEIU.


151 posted on 10/04/2011 2:53:02 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: sunmars

>can’t believe they are trying the spin of “confused”, seriously, the AG is confued or “doesnt read all his briefs”, that alone is grounds for sacking in my books.

Let me play devil’s advocate for a second: I am bogged down by e-mails [at work] which are generated by an automated system for work, most of them are pretty useless/irrelevant... but there’s some that aren’t and that can be quite important from this automated system. The thing about it is there’s no easy way to tell what IS important from that which is not, and that is ignoring the case where something is thought to be unimportant even though it turns out later that it was.

IMO, it’s becoming a [big] problem, in this society, where there is so much information, but so little of worth being shuffled around.


152 posted on 10/04/2011 3:12:00 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: b4its2late

Oh, I hear ya. I just don’t get that depressed about them having time to shred. The truth WILL out, from time to time, and who would have ever thought that Richard M. Nixon would be tape recording all his conversations and leaving the tapes where they could be subpoenaed?


153 posted on 10/04/2011 3:23:54 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: GraceG

This whole mess is coordinated from the top.

The occupy wall street useful idiots will be joined in solidarity by some REAL change makers in the form of union thugs and the New Black Panthers

Holders’s Panthers are nothing but the brownshirts of the chocolate reich, and will jump in as soon as Holder gets busted for F&F.

If the unrest gets bad enough, the NBP might have to be deputized as federal marshals, giving Obama his own civilian police force, the Negrestapo.


154 posted on 10/04/2011 3:57:56 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: sunmars

Probe him fast and furious.


155 posted on 10/04/2011 6:25:00 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

156 posted on 10/04/2011 6:25:47 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

A ‘special’ council. Now who would 0 suggest?


157 posted on 10/04/2011 6:33:55 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: rawhide
Wouldn't Holder have to approve of this operation from the beginning, since he is the attorney general that has authority over the government legal matters?

Given that Fast & Furious is known to involve not only the ATF, but the U.S. Attorney's office, the FBI and the DEA, plus the IRS and ICE, one can safely conclude that the head of not only the DOJ, but the heads of Treasury and Homeland Security knew about it, too.

And, if three department heads were involved, the President was in on it, as well.

If only this administration could generate so much cooperation and coordination on winning a war as they do on subverting the Constitution.

158 posted on 10/04/2011 7:05:07 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: rhc2000
Holder should ask Scooter Libby how that “confused” defense worked out.

If tried before a jury of his peers, in a D.C. courtroom, Holder walks. The same jury that convicted Libby would acquit Holder in a millisecond.

Not a race thing...but a partisan thing. Recall the foreman of the Libby jury saying "We just wished it had been Dick Cheney sitting in the accused's chair."

159 posted on 10/04/2011 7:09:03 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: simplesimon
Can the House Judiciary Committee go ahead anyway even tho pukeface denies it ?

No. By law, a special counsel is appointed by the Attorney General, with the approval of the President.

Smith and Issa both know this. The request is going nowhere. But, evidently, they believed it was time to play this card.

And I don't doubt they have a Plan B in mind...

160 posted on 10/04/2011 7:13:02 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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