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Rick Perry an immigration radical? Hardly
Start Telegram ^ | Sept. 27, 2011 | Star-Telegram Editorial

Posted on 09/27/2011 7:57:53 PM PDT by Clairity

Texas Gov. Rick Perry is a radical who encourages illegal immigration.

Really?

That incendiary line of attack in the free-for-all among Republican presidential hopefuls begs for a deep breath and a dose of rational reflection.

Since 2001, Texas has allowed students to qualify for in-state college tuition if they've lived in the state for three years leading to high school graduation, completed their studies for a diploma or a GED, and enrolled at a public higher education institution.

Citizens, legal residents and other immigrants can get lower rates under the law. Students who meet the criteria but aren't U.S. citizens yet must file a statement that they intend to seek legal status.

The policy, which won widespread support in the Legislature before getting Perry's signature, has moral, practical and financial dimensions.

Support has come from the influential Texas Association of Business and chambers of commerce, as well as educators, the Texas Catholic Conference and civil libertarians.

In 2009, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott upheld the law. This summer, the U.S. Supreme Court also rejected a challenge to a similar law in California.

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: heartless; immigration; perry
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To: Clairity

a deep breath of what, laughing gas?


41 posted on 09/27/2011 8:27:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: ari-freedom
IF we're a Republic again...then we take back that authority. Then we could shoot those wet backs without Fed interference...YIPPEE...

I have 5 who are career Army...all of them would hot foot it back to Texas. In the fall, all but one of them will be back in the hell hole of Afghanistan. I have two who are MI and one is an Army Major.

42 posted on 09/27/2011 8:27:37 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Niteflyr

“Be interesting to know how many illegals pursuing higher education will major in Hispanic/Ethnic Studies to become the next crop of street marching recoquista radicals? “

well, they’re not going to college to get jobs because we’re supposed to ummm punish employers for hiring illegals, right???


43 posted on 09/27/2011 8:27:46 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: ari-freedom

“Statement by the founder of Free Republic
...
I believe in defending our BORDERS, our constitution and our national sovereignty.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts

Excellent. Glad to hear he agrees with Rick Perry.


44 posted on 09/27/2011 8:28:11 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity
Mark Levin, on his show 9/23/11, regarding Rick Perry and in-state tuition for the children of illegals:

"They [the children of illegals] are being educated, right up to and through high school.

Where did it come to pass that if you're here illegally, you have a right to a college education, let alone the right to have it subsidized, when all Americans do NOT have their college educations subsidized?

I mean, this is perverse, to be honest with you.

And it is also the position of the Bush family. And I think…if I'm wrong, I stand corrected…it's the position of some of our "inside-the-beltway" publications.

But it is not the position of the American people, who have to pay this bill, endlessly."


45 posted on 09/27/2011 8:28:54 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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To: shield
Today Texas is where California was in the 1970s. In five years you will be where California is today. Just as illegals brought California down (welfare payments, destroying the public educational system, bankrupting hospitals, turning cities into barrios, etc.), it will destroy Texas too. The difference is that it will be done in a matter of years rather than decades because the trickle is now a flood.

Texans are either too dumb or too arrogant to see what has happened to California and not recognize the danger.

46 posted on 09/27/2011 8:29:46 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: ari-freedom
well, they’re not going to college to get jobs because we’re supposed to ummm punish employers for hiring illegals, right???

What does that leave? Taxpayer funded political activism...

47 posted on 09/27/2011 8:30:08 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Ajnin

The illegals who brought children into this country are one thing, but let’s not put their children in the same category. It was their parents who broke the law, not them. It is immoral to punish the children for the sins of the parent. To deny them instate college tuition rates when students from other states can qualify for instate rates after a one year residency is outrageous.


48 posted on 09/27/2011 8:31:23 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: bwc2221
Texans are either too dumb or too arrogant to see what has happened to California and not recognize the danger.

As a Californian since 1956 I got to witness the destruction...

49 posted on 09/27/2011 8:32:04 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Clairity

Its worse than that.. Perry does not know illegal aliens........ ARE ILLEGAL...

could explain why Perry didn’t know Al Gorp was a complete moron and campaigned for him..

Its hard to remove the democrat from the democrat while act like a republican..
Look what this process did to Ron Paul.. it made him crazy..
Myth Romney became political fiction..


50 posted on 09/27/2011 8:32:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: jonrick46
To deny them instate college tuition rates when students from other states can qualify for instate rates after a one year residency is outrageous.

Since American citizens will be bumped from those seats...I'll remain the heartless bastard I was told I was by Ricardo Perry...so heartless he won't get a dime or a vote from me...

51 posted on 09/27/2011 8:34:49 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Clairity

Interesting numbers in the article.

Texas educates or executes illegal children brought into Texas — depends on their path.

While the Mexican (brought into the U.S. at 5-years-old) lived on death row for 2 decades (being supported by taxpayers for his room and board) others have taken another path and are paying their way to be educated (the vast majority of those who qualify, attend community colleges).


52 posted on 09/27/2011 8:34:51 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
There are 38 states who haven't legislated on in state tuition...all those illegals receive in state tuition as any legal American student.

The only other chink in his armor is his support for a law he signed which allowed for non-citizen children domiciled in Texas without immigration documentation to be considered Texas residents for the purposes of paying college tuition. From the boos in the crowds it was apparent that most Republicans nation-wide do not support this. Nonetheless, Perry explains very clearly and carefully why he signed what was a veto proof bill passed with four “no” votes out of 183 Texas legislators, with Republicans in firm control of both chambers.

But here’s what Yankees like Michelle Bachmann, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum don’t get. Texas is not the only state that has done this. New Mexico and California have as well. Not surprisingly, Arizona is the only state with an actual border with Mexico that hasn’t. In addition to Arizona, only three other states prohibit in-state tuition for children with undocumented immigration status. However, in addition to Texas, New Mexico, and California, eight other states specifically allow it. These include Kansas (passed with a Republican supermajority in both houses), Nebraska (non-partisan, but with a supermajority of members who were otherwise Republicans), and Utah (again, with a dual supermajority of Republicans), New York (split control), Oklahoma (Republican House and even split in the Senate), as well as Illinois, Washington, and Wisconsin (Democratic simple majority in both houses).

Now you may be thinking to yourself, if only four states have prohibited state universities from considering undocumented students as residents, and eight have specifically permitted it, what about the other thirty-eight? They have not legislated on the matter at all. What is not prohibited is allowed.

53 posted on 09/27/2011 8:35:35 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: jonrick46

“To deny them instate college tuition rates when students from other states can qualify for instate rates after a one year residency is outrageous.”

You make it sound like we’re trying to starve them to death.


54 posted on 09/27/2011 8:36:33 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: ari-freedom

Hey ari, you got photo ID up there in New York yet? Perry passed it in Texas. Photo ID, you know, the thing that keeps illegals from voting. You got it there yet?


55 posted on 09/27/2011 8:37:39 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Clairity

Texas Gov. Rick Perry is a radical who encourages illegal immigration.”

No. Perry is an immigration RINO, like GW Bush and others in the GOP, he doesnt ‘encourage’ it, but will not make hard choices to shut it down.

“Since 2001, Texas has allowed students to qualify for in-state college tuition if they’ve lived in the state for three years” ...

It’s a mistaken law and it would be popular to overturn it, but you have the alliance of business and left-wing and ethnic special interestes ....

“... has come from the influential Texas Association of Business and chambers of commerce, as well as educators, the Texas Catholic Conference and civil libertarians”

- TAB/Chamber of Commerce = cheap-labor lobby
- ‘educators’ = Educrat unions seeking to keep illegal immigrant captive student audience
- Catholic Bishops = representing the illegal aliens in their pews
- civil libertarians = open borders ACLU types

So basically an alliance of open borders folks like the unpopular and bad policy.

Big deal. It is still wrong.


56 posted on 09/27/2011 8:37:56 PM PDT by WOSG (“Legion of Acceptibility”)
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To: lonestar

No its not a two way street. illegal aliens lie. Illegal aliens violate the law. These are very simple concepts that supporters of in state tuition for illegal aliens do not seem to understand. If illegal aliens are willing to violate numerous other federal and state laws why in the hell would they suddenly want to be truthful on a college affidavit that nobody cares is even valid?
Illegal aliens don’t care about legally entering the US why would they care about entering college legally?


57 posted on 09/27/2011 8:40:09 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: shield
"Not surprisingly, Arizona is the only state with an actual border with Mexico that hasn’t. "

Go Gov Brewer!

58 posted on 09/27/2011 8:40:18 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: dps.inspect
Or, do you really mean, "Oh, you mean Democrat votes... well then, alls well..."

Methinks the above is why the Obama Regime is not lifting a finger to fulfill the Federal Government's responsibility in sealing the border with boots on the ground. All this stuff that Governor Perry is being blamed for is the result of the Obama Regime's failure to fulfill their obligation.zzzzzzzzz,p. Start pointing the finger at the right guy: Barack Obama.

59 posted on 09/27/2011 8:40:36 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: GeronL

Let’s see some heart extended to American citizens for a change! I was all for Perry but his stance on illegal aliens and especially his horrible defense of the tuition subsidy for illegal aliens program hurt him.

By the way, let’s make it clear to the media that it wasn’t Perry’s debate performance that hurt him, it was his pro-illegal alien stand and especially his attack on his own “heartless” base. This sounds like the failed “compassionate conservatism” of Bush and that is NOT what we want.


60 posted on 09/27/2011 8:41:24 PM PDT by Jim Wonders Why
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