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Rick Perry's campaign stuggles to explain straw poll loss
latimes.com ^ | September 24, 2011, 6:06 p.m | By Paul West

Posted on 09/24/2011 7:07:02 PM PDT by free me

Reporting from Tampa, Fla. -- A black, threatening cloud hung low over the Orange County Convention Center on Saturday evening as top members of Gov. Rick Perry’s brain trust left a place their candidate would love to forget.

At best half showed up, leaving tables groaning with uneaten bagels, scrambled eggs, bacon and fruit cocktail. At the end of the governor’s rather perfunctory eight-minute speech, the breakfast crowd offered a rather perfunctory round of applause, the first public clue that all might not be going well in Perryville.

The Texan’s campaign fielded the largest cadre of volunteers and paid staff at the event. His staffers, wires dangling from their ears (a touch, and expense, that no other campaign matched), were very much in evidence Saturday inside the convention hall, as they distributed signs and buttonholed delegates. Another visible sign of the considerable investment Perry made in Florida: signage that included a huge banner, hanging in the foyer of the convention hall, which greeted the 3,000 delegates, starting on debate night; Perry’s campaign paid an undisclosed sum to the state party for the privilege.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; heartless; nomorerinos; norinos; perry; perry4mexico; perrytanks
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To: Norm Lenhart

The vote passed the legislature by a non vetoable margin.
Only 4 votes were dissenting in a VERY conservative state.


241 posted on 09/24/2011 9:50:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: nhwingut; McGavin999

I don’t know how he can walk back the ‘heartless’ statement....but he’d better.

I was in his camp until then.


242 posted on 09/24/2011 9:51:43 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: no dems
Are you guys friggin' kidding me? The GOP Candidate will win Texas handily.

Of course he will, but since you didn't read the rest of what I wrote you aren't able to understand how Repubs HAVE to learn how to win without TX if Perry prevails.

243 posted on 09/24/2011 9:52:07 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Keep running Sarah! And keep the opposition guessing as to when you'll announce.)
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To: Reagan Man

Who called a good conservative a RINO? A liberal? I thought we were talking about Rick Perry? Who are you talking about?

The RP I know has done a number of things that are verified to be the polar opposite of Conservative that we’ve been discussing all throughout this thread... so it can’t be him. Are you talking about Reagan? The only RINO/lib association there is some troll using his name and trolling Palin supporters.

The propaganda some posters spout in the face of contradictory evidence from Perry’s own mouth is even more amazing. Go play trollboy with someone who cares. I don’t.


244 posted on 09/24/2011 9:52:23 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: stilloftyhenight

So it is worthless in you opinion?
I should pack up and give up?


245 posted on 09/24/2011 9:52:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yawn


246 posted on 09/24/2011 9:53:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: stilloftyhenight

I Think Voter ID is focused at all voting shenanigans.


247 posted on 09/24/2011 9:54:08 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Then it appears Texas id more conservative than it’s government.


248 posted on 09/24/2011 9:54:12 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

What?


249 posted on 09/24/2011 9:56:44 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: All; 17th Miss Regt
Didn't someone recently get in trouble for comparing Obama to a black cloud? One that is hung low, too! Maybe this L.A. Times reporter needs to be taken out to the woodshed and taught a lesson. Of course, he might actually enjoy it.

Yes. It was Rick Perry although the Left spun it was meaning Obama, he said, “Being able to pay off 14 and a half, 16 trillion dollars worth of debt. That big black cloud that hangs over America. That big black cloud that hangs over America, that debt that is so monstrous…”

There was even a controversy because Ed Schultz' MSNBC show edited the clip to favor their "Obama = big black cloud" talking-point.

The choice of reporter's words here is NO accident.

250 posted on 09/24/2011 10:01:20 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Ryan: Obama "a pyromaniac in a field of straw men" / Andre Carson's racism goes unchecked)
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To: Reagan Man
I think we are making a lot of the debates. Most campaigning is done and elections are won via campaign rallies, face to face meeting with the voters, TV and radio ads, interviews, major speeches, and of course get out the vote.

Perry can come up tomorrow with a 45 seconds political commercial showing Romney, with his own image and voice, stating his liberal positions on abortion, gay marriage, gun control, man-made global warming, etc... The ad would be more devastating, more effective, and more talked about than any debate soundbite.

Now almost everyone has dramatically lowered the expectation for Perry debate performance and they think of him as a bad debater which should work to Perry advantage.

251 posted on 09/24/2011 10:02:41 PM PDT by jgge
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To: McGavin999
“Yep, he just tossed those Texas Americans right out of their jobs so he could give them to illegals. That must be the reason Texas is so successful. They have low unemployment because.....well.....hmmmmm”

Texas is where California was in 1970 with its economy leading the nation. Rather than realizing that illegal aliens played a tremendous roll in the destruction of California, Texans invited the wolf to the dinner table.

Your state is facing a $10 billion shortfall in 2012, surpassed only by California, Illinois and New Jersey:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/01/14/10-states-with-the-largest-budget-shortfalls

You know what else California, Illinois and Texas have in common? They are the three states with the largest percentage increase in illegal aliens.

Enjoy the good times while you can because Texas is headed in the same direction as California, but it wall take far shorter time because the trickle has become a flood.

252 posted on 09/24/2011 10:04:03 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: free me

Cain in Hebrew means YES!


253 posted on 09/24/2011 10:08:32 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: stilloftyhenight

The Feds have their foot on E-Verify.

One can check immigration status..but can’t not hire because of it. We can only inform the potential employee that there are issues with their Social Security Card.

I don’t think it was a cute effort to bill the government for over crowded prisons. I happen to agree with it. I don’t agree with Perry on many things, but until the Feds step up, send us the cash. I recently sat on a jury...both the people were illegal. Go figure.

I don’t agree with Perry on every issue...but facts are facts.

Securing this country is a federal issue. It shouldn’t be left to the states. If a state tries to do it, they are slapped down in Fed Courts.

We recently had a mayor in a suburb of Dallas try to control illegal immigration.Spent a lot of money...and lost.

Voter ID...sorry but is better than nothing. AND trying to be shut down by the Feds. At least we tried.


254 posted on 09/24/2011 10:11:48 PM PDT by berdie
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To: bwc2221

I understand your concerns, but I see no sign of that here.

It’s really a moot point in this current debate.
If we don’t get the country back on the track of fiscal responsibility, we are all toast and the illegals wont be coming here at all.

Texas aint no free ride state, Texas is a “right to work state”

Ca and Illinois are both union states


255 posted on 09/24/2011 10:13:06 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: muawiyah

“Hermann Cain is an Associate Minister in the second largest Baptist group in the world.”

wow he’s done everything except becoming a professional panderer, I mean politician.


256 posted on 09/24/2011 10:15:49 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: jgge
>>>>>>I think we are making a lot of the debates.

No doubt about it.

Debates are important, but they do not elect a candidate. They're one factor out of many. Debates allow people in different parts of the country to see regional or state candidates they otherwise would have no interest in.

Perry's problem on Thursday is he stumbled several times and came across unprepared. I agree his campign puts out good ads. I understand he's a good retail politician, can work a crowd well and gives a good speech. But people want to see how candidates move on their feet in an environment that is not in their control.

257 posted on 09/24/2011 10:17:15 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: bwc2221

You neglect 9.4 billion dollars in the rainy day fund.

I don’t like the margins so close but these are difficult times.

That said, it can not be denied that Texas is leading the nation on fiscal matters.

Ohio and Wi are doing great things, many states are, but to try to portray Texas as fiscally irresponsible is lame.


258 posted on 09/24/2011 10:20:06 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“I believe his heart is in the right place, but I believe Perry’s is as well.”

Yes but unlike Perry, Cain also has a BRAIN


259 posted on 09/24/2011 10:22:18 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: mylife

I’m saying that your population isn’t lockstep with your legislature. There seem to be a lot of Texans I read about not on board with the tuition thing, the border issues etc. The people of Texas seem to be more conservative than those representing.


260 posted on 09/24/2011 10:25:20 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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