A Tea Party Conservative's Defense of Ron Paul...and His Supporters

American Thinker ^ | 9/24/11 | Russ Paladino

[Bokababe]

I want to state at the outset that this essay is not intended to be an endorsement of Ron Paul. While I respect and admire many of his positions and his fidelity to the Constitution, I have strong misgivings about some of his stances on national security. If you could hear the debates between myself and my 20-year-old son, a passionate Ron Paul supporter, you would readily accept the sincerity of my disclaimer.

That said, as the political season has heated up, I've been surprised at the tone of the discourse as it relates to Ron Paul. In fact, I can hardly believe what I'm seeing and hearing from my fellow Tea Partiers and conservatives. My assumption that conservatives are more thoughtful and logical than my emotion-driven liberal friends has taken a bit of a hit....

[John D]

Any "dimwit" vote for a Constitutional government, a balanced budgetBR>

Has the surrender monkey ever done anything except talk, blame America, and stuff every bill possible with earmarks?

[rabscuttle385]

I just know that while, at that age, they think they know everything, they don’t.

This young one knows that his paycheck next week is getting ravaged to pay for Big Government™ in its many forms - Big Military™, subsidies to Big Business™, welfare for foreign dictators and hostile governments, Ponzi schemes such as Socialist Insecurity and Mediscare, etc.

Of course, according you, this young one - like his peers - is naught but a "stupid wet behind the ears twenty-something" - your words, not mine.

Oh, and by the way, not only is this young twenty-something sick of watching his peers get shipped off to foreign countries to die for corrupt politicians - he is sick of going to work each day to pay for the weapons used to kill them (instead of saving the money for a house, getting more education, getting married, and starting a family)!

So, I'll blame America first right here. I'll blame all the arrogant, treasonous, un-American idiots on both sides of the political aisle (many of whom are far older than me) who for decades ran amok around the world, playing one side against each other, thinking that they could play God without having to deal with the consequences of their choices - and who now believe that others (including their fellow citizens) should pay for their folly at home AND abroad.

It's long past time for the bullsh-t to stop, it's time for the United States to regain her stature on the world scene as a Republic (rather than as an Empire) and as the world's last bastion of freedom and liberty (rather than as a police state consumed by useless regulations and zombie bureaucrats) - hopefully before she falls apart and descends into the dustbin of history - and the only generation that has the power to put an end to the bullsh-t is the one that you are openly denigrating right here.

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[giotto]

Very well, thank you. I like Cain. In fact, after Paul, he would be my first choice.

[trisham]

Imho, Ron Paul supporters are spoiled children, regardless of age, who don't want to serve in the military and want legal access to drugs.

Paul himself is an old fool.

[John D]

Imho, Ron Paul supporters are spoiled children, regardless of age, who don't want to serve in the military and want legal access to drugs.

Well. who else would support the surrender monkey? Except queers, and I am sure they do too.

[wagglebee]

Imho, Ron Paul supporters are spoiled children, regardless of age, who don't want to serve in the military and want legal access to drugs.

Don't forget about porn and hookers.

[trisham]

My apologies. Porn and hookers as well.

[wagglebee]

And abortion, death panels and sodomite "marriage," we can't forget about that.

[trisham]

Paul is for abortion?

[lentulusgracchus]

Well. who else would support the surrender monkey? Except queers, and I am sure they do too.

Actually, hyperaggressive gay liberal Sascha Cohen went after Ron Paul in his latest film a couple of years ago.

Cohen did a series of "setups" with famous people in which he tried to ambush-interview them (rating a loud and impatient "FO" from Harrison Ford) or create some really embarrassing guerrilla-theater encounters.

Think of a Michael Moore film and then gay it up about 9,000,000% and you're there.

For Ron Paul, Cohen set up a hotel-room massage/gay-seduction tableau. Paul was polite, but when he realized what Cohen was up to, he got up and left like a normal person.

I didn't see the whole film. I left not too long after the scenes with Ford and Paul.

[wagglebee]

His position is debatable, but most of his supporters are in favor of the pro-choice-by-state policy. They seem to think it worked out so well the last time America decided to let each state decide which persons were legally considered persons.

[trisham]

I did find this:

Day-after pill allows individual moral choice

The abortion problem is more of a social and moral issue than it is a legal one. If we are ever to have fewer abortions, society must change. The law will not accomplish that. However, that does not mean that the states shouldn't be allowed to deal with abortion. Very early pregnancies and victims of rape can be treated with the day after pill, which is nothing more than using birth control pills in a special manner. Such circumstances would be dealt with by each individual making his or her moral choice.

Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p. 5 Apr 19, 2011

And this:

Get the federal government out of abortion decision

Q: If abortion becomes illegal and a woman obtains an abortion anyway, what should she be charged with? What about the doctor who performs the abortion?

RP A: The first thing we have to do is get the federal government out of it.

We don’t need a federal abortion police. That’s the last thing that we need. There has to be a criminal penalty for the person that’s committing that crime. And I think that is the abortionist. As for the punishment, I don’t think that should be up to the president to decide.

Source: 2007 GOP YouTube debate in St. Petersburg, Florida Nov 28, 2007

[federal__reserve]

worrying about our own country and its needs.

That is correct at the present time since we are drowning in debt. Until the fiscal mess is solved, we are stupid to spend money on world policeman with borrowed money from China whom we already owe Trillions and we can't pay a single cent back since there are no budget surpluses. But we will be paying interest for ever.

However if USA should retain it's previous status of the 50's & early 60's when we had 50% of world GDP, we can not stand on the sidelines and become isolationist. To keep growing our economy we need secure access to world markets and trade. And that can not happen if world is run by dictators, despots, Caliphs, communists, etc. We then will have to make sure the world is free, just and abides by international law.

But we are not there yet, so yes at this time mind our own business.

[wagglebee]

In other words, he is just fine leaving up to the states.

The majority of abortions are performed in a handful of very liberal states like New York and California, these states will NEVER ban abortion if given the choice. Nearly every person in America lives within a day's drive of a state that will keep abortion legal at any cost, there is no reason to believe that the state-by-state approach will save even a single life.

[Paradox]

My assumption that conservatives are more thoughtful and logical than my emotion-driven liberal friends has taken a bit of a hit..

Welcome to FR, oh, wait. :)

[Gondring]

Well written.

[dcwusmc]

You, sir or madam, are a moron. I support Dr. Paul, absent anyone else who puts the Constitution above everything else, and I am RETIRED from the military (USMC). I don’t use recreational drugs, even alcohol or nicotine but I want the war on some drugs ended, as the serious affront to our Constitution that it is. I want the BATFags disbanded and jailed, THEIR unconstitutional war on gun owners ended, and I want such other affronts to liberty as the EPA disbanded, their people jailed, their lands and buildings torn down and sown with salt.

All that idiots like you do is alienate those you NEED in order to rid us of the Obomination, because you have nothing CONSTRUCTIVE to offer. If you have issues with parts of Dr. Paul’s stances, why not write him and,using reason and logic, point out your disagreements and WHY. Instead you offer nothing but phony derision and name-calling. You are a major part of the problem, NOT the solution.

[BlackElk]

BOKABABE:

Ron Paul continues to be a sick joke as a POTUS candidate and will continue to be a sick joke as a long as he continues as a POTUS candidate, whatever this small businessman from Long Island would like to think. To respect Ron Paul is to diminish the meaning of the concept of respect. He has some useful economic views in spite of his love affair with earmarked truckloads of pork for Galveston. Her poses for holy pictures as a pro-lifer while ignoring the 14th Amendment right to life and hiding behind his imagined applicability of the 10th Amendment (trumped by the later enacted 14th) to hide his refusal to ACT in favor of the unborn and his willingness to (Too bad, so sad but, but the 10th....) tolerate the ongoing holocaust, Ditto on all counts except the 14th as to marriage between one man and one woman (no twelvesomes, no marriages among sex perverts of the same sex, no space aliens of indeterminate gender, no Chaz Bono, etc.). One can easily imagine Paul spending a few months as philosopher king wannabe debating himself over closing light houses as "unconstitutional," or having a SCOTUS appointment litmus test over whether prospective nominees would abolish the Interstate Highway System because Eisenhower called them "National Defense Highways" and we all know how paleoPaulie feels about anything labeled National Defense. He would probably demand a formal Declaration of War by Congress to supply the military with ketchup and peelable spuds much less national highways. Perhaps you should confess that your real reason for supporting El Run is that you are still carrying a torch in opposition to the deposing of communist satrap Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia by the American military which cannot be gelded without a sorry specimen like paleoPaulie in "command" of surrender strategies for the USA (perhaps abetted by potential Secretary of Surrender Dennis Cuckoocinich). See Ron and Dennis on their knees, whimpering, weeping with Islamofascist AK-47s in each ear, signing the US over to Sharia Law and making DC the capitol of the new World Caliphate. Weepy Walter Jones and Jimmy Duncan would be there on their knees too!

MARTY62:

Romney? Romney???? Did Romney run Taxachusetts as a "fiscal conservative???" Did Romney do anything whatsoever to defend actual marriage (you know: between one man and one woman) from the People's Glorious Republic of Taxachusetts run amok in favor of requiring public officials to treat institutionalized perversion as "marriage???" Other than vow in debates with Ted Kennedy to protect the continued wholesale slaughter of innocent babies and maybe a little lying lip service to the contrary thereafter, just what has the Mittster ACTUALLY DONE to save babies from being sliced, diced and hamburgerized??? Ahhhh, but you admitted that he was a social issue "moderate!!!" Some "moderation" as Katie Couric, Brian Williams, Planned Barrenhood and Wolf Blitzer use the term!!!

Ahhh, but he is a fiscal conservative!!! By da*n, that ought to be more than enough for those ignorant barbarian trailer park Biblebeaters who cling to their guns and... (whoops! that's Obozo's line too!). After all, don't they understand that the health of your stock portfolio and more tax cuts for your bracket and sending more of those wogs' jobs to Bangladesh as Romney likes to do to improve that bottom line Almighty is absolutely ALL that matters! At least El Run and the Paulistinians make a pretense of being motivated by constitutional restoration. At least, most candidates not named Ron Paul make a pretense of dedication to destroying this nation's enemies. Romney is, no doubt, willing to pose on that one too so long as someone shows him how. If the Mittster is the most libertarian leaning candidate, maybe he should free himself from those Republican chains, take the Libertarian nomination with NM ex-Governor Johnson as his running mate, run as the peace, dope, love (any sort anybody wants) and keep on killing the babies candidates no longer having to pose as square Republican pegs in a round civilized hole. Then they can run as the unabashed money-obsessive Wall Street servants that Mittens has always been.

When the Demonrat Destructocrat political machine makes a national laughing stock out of Romney by attacking his religion and some of its curious practices, he will be defended by Salt Lake City religious leaders (of a religion of verrrrry good folks) but the only motivation for social conservatives to support your quisling Romney will be to defend all those fine folks and actual conservatives (not Mitt) who deserve defense for being pro-life and pro-family and pro-American and pro-gun and anti-tax and anti-regulation and opposed to the globaloney which is Mittster's first love.

If we want a businessman, we can nominate Herman Cain who is a real businessman having made and sold pizzas and not a phony who makes deals with the elitist self-imagined "masters of the universe" to carve the rest of us up. I will NEVER vote for Paul or for Romney or for Huntsman. I haven't decided among the others yet but I don't have to until March, 2012.

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[noblejones]

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[Danae]

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