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To: Bokababe
worrying about our own country and its needs.

That is correct at the present time since we are drowning in debt. Until the fiscal mess is solved, we are stupid to spend money on world policeman with borrowed money from China whom we already owe Trillions and we can't pay a single cent back since there are no budget surpluses. But we will be paying interest for ever.

However if USA should retain it's previous status of the 50's & early 60's when we had 50% of world GDP, we can not stand on the sidelines and become isolationist. To keep growing our economy we need secure access to world markets and trade. And that can not happen if world is run by dictators, despots, Caliphs, communists, etc. We then will have to make sure the world is free, just and abides by international law.

But we are not there yet, so yes at this time mind our own business.
53 posted on 09/24/2011 4:59:19 PM PDT by federal__reserve (Peace through strength has worked better than peace via appeasement in history.)
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To: federal__reserve; Bokababe; dcwusmc; bamahead
And that can not happen if world is run by dictators, despots, Caliphs, communists, etc. We then will have to make sure the world is free, just and abides by international law.

Fine. Then pay for it - unfortunately that means taxes will have to go sky-high, or the US electorate will have to collectively mortgage the lives of its children and grandchildren (i.e., sell its children and grandchildren into slavery)...wait, we're already doing that!

Running an empire - official or unofficial - is a very expensive proposition.

Plus, while your government is in the business of figuring out how to control the lives of people beyond its borders, it might get interested in controlling the lives of people within their borders (like you) and forcing them to submit to its definition of "freedom" and "justice."

No, making the world safe for "freedom" and "justice" - what you have advocated, which is nothing less than what a well-known progressive named Woodrow Wilson advocated one hundred years ago, i.e., using the US military and other governmental machinery to "make the world safe for democracy" - doesn't actually make the world free or just. It, much like every other failed left-wing progressive initiative (see eugenics, the income tax, central banking, the EPA, the UN, Homeland Security, and student loans as good examples) in fact achieves the exact opposite of its stated objectives. But...it does feel nice at time, doesn't it?

73 posted on 09/24/2011 7:14:33 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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