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Wisconsin: State warns retailers about roll-your-own tobacco machines
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 9/23/11 | Don Walker

Posted on 09/23/2011 1:21:32 PM PDT by Jean S

The Wisconsin chapter of the American Cancer Society is applauding a letter sent out Friday by the state Department of Revenue that warns the owners of "roll your own tobacco" machines that they must comply with state law and quit avoiding paying cigarette taxes.

According to state law, if a retailer or the retailer's customer operates a so-called RYO machine on the retailer's premises that makes cigarettes with loose tobacco, the retailer becomes a cigarette manufacturer and distributor.

In that case, the retailer must obtain manufacturer and distributor permits from the Department of Revenue. Under state law, the retailer also must obtain certification from the state Department of Justice to be placed on its approved directory of cigarettes for sale in Wisconsin, and obtain certification from the state Department of Safety and Professional Services that the cigarettes meet fire safety performance standards.

Allison Miller, government relations director for the Cancer Society, said the self-service machines are out in the open and potentially accessible to underage customers.

"A cigarette by any other name is still a cigarette," Miller said. "Our concern is that these roll-your-own machines are skirting the law just enough to make their deadly products much more affordable and appealing, especially to youth."

Over the last decade, Wisconsin's cigarette tax has increased from 59 cents per pack to $2.52 a pack.

The state estimates there are 50-100 roll-your-own machines in the state.

According to the cancer society, tobacco use costs Wisconsin $2.8 million a year in health care costs.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: tobaccotax
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Oh good grief!
1 posted on 09/23/2011 1:21:38 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

gimmie, gimmie, gimmie... money


2 posted on 09/23/2011 1:23:24 PM PDT by steveo (PETO-VT-IN-MARI-SVB-CRVCE-AVSTRALI-SEPELIAR)
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Knew that was comming....next up...rolling your own AT ALL makes you a “manufacturer” and thus will be banned or require lisences, fee’s, permits, etc...

The state will not be denied it’s pound of flesh.


3 posted on 09/23/2011 1:25:00 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: Jean S
By hook or by crook, they're gonna get THEIR money from you.
4 posted on 09/23/2011 1:26:14 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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"Our concern is that these roll-your-own machines are skirting the law just enough to make their deadly products much more affordable and appealing, especially to youth."

Then why don't you have the huevos to BAN IT entirely if it's so friggin' EVIL??!!! Oh, that's right... Revenue.

Jackasses.

5 posted on 09/23/2011 1:27:07 PM PDT by ozark hilljilly ("Hit 'em again, Todd!!")
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A cigarette by any other name is still a cigarette," Miller said.

Not necessarily -- it COULD be a fag...

;-)

6 posted on 09/23/2011 1:27:29 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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To: Jean S

See my tag line.


7 posted on 09/23/2011 1:28:38 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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No problem, on-line sales of the machines will just increase. I started rolling my own Bull Durham and Prince Albert cigarettes when a kid. It's no big deal, even an Obama voting democrat can do it.
8 posted on 09/23/2011 1:29:22 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Jean S
According to the cancer society, tobacco use costs Wisconsin $2.8 million a year in health care costs.

How much does lung cancer save in social security and pensions?

9 posted on 09/23/2011 1:29:35 PM PDT by Drew68 (Undecided/Rubio 2012)
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To: Jean S
I haven't seen these machines, but understand there is a low-tech semi-automated version available for about $50.

In fact, in the days before high-tech assembly lines, that's how commercial cigars and cigarettes were rolled-- you dumped tobacco in a hopper, ejected the appropriate quantity into a tube, wrapped the paper around the tube, drew the tube back as the paper tightened around the tobacco, sealed the paper and repeated the process.

It is not a very complicated or sophisticated process. If the tobacco nazis are successful in this quest, I suspect the next step will be for these places to just sell the machines and, rather than having 50-100 machines in the state, you will have 5 to 10 thousand of them.

10 posted on 09/23/2011 1:31:48 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Drew68

I’m sure it’s a wash.


11 posted on 09/23/2011 1:33:13 PM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: ozark hilljilly
Look what I just found with a quick Google search.

FWIW, I think smoking is a nasty, filthy habit and have never done it. But I also think nazis need to chill out.

12 posted on 09/23/2011 1:39:34 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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"Our concern is that these roll-your-own machines are skirting the law just enough to make their deadly products much more affordable and appealing, especially to youth."

Well I guess you shouldn't have raised taxes so high that you in a sense created a black market.....morons
13 posted on 09/23/2011 1:44:52 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: WayneS

touche.....well played.


14 posted on 09/23/2011 1:54:17 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Jean S

If these revenue agents had been collecting taxes on prostitutes they never would have banned that either.


15 posted on 09/23/2011 1:55:03 PM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: Drew68

That was cold, cruel, mean — and dang it, you beat me to it!!!


16 posted on 09/23/2011 1:55:34 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Jean S

What’s next—stuffed cabbage? Grape leaves? Sushi?


17 posted on 09/23/2011 2:40:45 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ("Nanny Care State" is not a Division 3 football powerhouse.)
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Falk You Wi!


18 posted on 09/23/2011 3:02:42 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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The state estimates there are 50-100 roll-your-own machines in the state.

LoL! there are more than that in my town!

19 posted on 09/23/2011 3:05:18 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Vigilanteman

20 posted on 09/23/2011 3:08:53 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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