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Particles recorded moving faster than light: CERN
Reuters ^ | September 22, 2011 | Robert Evans

Posted on 09/22/2011 12:16:56 PM PDT by John W

An international team of scientists has recorded neutrino particles traveling faster than the speed of light, a spokesman for the researchers said on Thursday -- in what could be a challenge to one of the fundamental rules of physics.

If confirmed, the discovery would overturn a key part of Albert Einstein's 1905 theory of special relativity, which says that nothing in the universe can travel faster than light.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cern; fasterthanlight; neutrino; speedoflight
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To: John W

Typical “science”

“nothing in the universe can travel faster than light.”

(Until we find something that does).


41 posted on 09/22/2011 12:54:46 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: dartuser
Photons have mass.

No, they do not.

42 posted on 09/22/2011 12:55:36 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Mr. K

Even particles with zero rest mass, the photon for instance, are constrained under relativity, to velocities less than c. The rest mass of the neutrino may be very small, and zero is not excluded. To remain consistent with relativity, its rest mass would have to be imaginary when it is going faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.


43 posted on 09/22/2011 12:56:24 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Mr. K

Even particles with zero rest mass, the photon for instance, are constrained under relativity to velocities less than c. The rest mass of the neutrino may be very small, and zero is not excluded. To remain consistent with relativity, its rest mass would have to be imaginary when it is going faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.


44 posted on 09/22/2011 12:56:54 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: John W; big'ol_freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; cleveland gop
Re: Particles recorded moving faster than light

Gadzooks! That's almost as fast... as I can empty a keg of beer!

How else do you think we got here... to abduct and probe so many of you?

If I went at that speed... it would melt my steel balls!

In... conceivable!

Oooooooooooooooooooooooh!!!!!!!!! Stop! Stop! Please stop! I can't think... that fast!

Calm down, big. Here, have some beer... and cotton candy. It'll calm your nerves.

45 posted on 09/22/2011 12:57:08 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: roaddog727

You are a special relativity denier.


46 posted on 09/22/2011 12:58:03 PM PDT by willyd (your credibility deficit is screwing up my bs meter...)
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To: Lazamataz

Or perception. Or the uncertainty principle.


47 posted on 09/22/2011 12:59:09 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: WayneS
What type of meter/gauge does one use for this purpose?

That would be my first question. If the instruments you are using to measure the particle speed are limited by the speed of light then, to my thinking, you would have to have measure the result before the event happened in order to prove that something was moving faster than the speed of light.

48 posted on 09/22/2011 12:59:09 PM PDT by Tucsonican
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To: WayneS

Very small stopwatch.


49 posted on 09/22/2011 12:59:30 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: willyd

Only if found to be false...... :-)


50 posted on 09/22/2011 12:59:59 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: taxcontrol

Not my specialty either, but if the neutrinos are going faster than light, the physicists really do need to start all over.

Newtonian physics work at a big scale. Quantum physics work at a small scale. Eisteinian physics may also be scale or state dependent in a way thay physicists haven’t thought about.


51 posted on 09/22/2011 1:00:38 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: kosciusko51

Theorized to have no rest mass.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/photon_mass.html


52 posted on 09/22/2011 1:01:05 PM PDT by filospinato
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To: Mr. K

I got here as fast as I could, can, did, would;)

see!!!!!


53 posted on 09/22/2011 1:01:52 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: WayneS

Yessss


54 posted on 09/22/2011 1:03:36 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: mad_as_he$$

OK, that was kind of clever.


55 posted on 09/22/2011 1:04:18 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: dartuser

What is the rest mass of a photon?

And how was it measured?


56 posted on 09/22/2011 1:04:31 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Why is it zero? And how did you determine that?


57 posted on 09/22/2011 1:05:16 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: John W

Just wait until they figure out how fast Gravity waves travel...CC!


58 posted on 09/22/2011 1:06:55 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: mbynack
Time may very be personal ~ and depending on what you are doing and where your attention wanders it may occur at a different rate.

But if that bathroom door is closed at the moment you need it to be open time may be up!

59 posted on 09/22/2011 1:07:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dartuser; TheThirdRuffian

A very small bathroom scale...


60 posted on 09/22/2011 1:09:49 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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