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Will Perry Make It?
Dick Morris TV ^ | Sept. 17, 2011 | Dick Morris

Posted on 09/17/2011 10:23:58 AM PDT by T.L.Sink

The serious problems Rick Perry faces in the primary and potential general election, outlined by Dick Morris in this video clip, are self-explanatory.

(Excerpt) Read more at dickmorris.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dickmorris; perry
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To: comebacknewt

I’ve got this whole race mapped out, and an excel spreadsheet of each and every poll in every state that’s had one. I’m deep into this :)


61 posted on 09/17/2011 11:37:19 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 !)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
At the same time Morris is right about Perry's rough couple of weeks. He was just "Palinized" by both the left and a fair amount of the right.

That MAY have damaged him to the point of not being viable in the general election.

The thing that troubles me is that IF this is true, I don't see another conservative in the race who has a chance at winning our nomination.

62 posted on 09/17/2011 11:38:13 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: comebacknewt

Here is one of the polls, the hot air spin is what it is, and the numbers are the numbers, http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/16/rasmussen-obama-46-perry-39/


63 posted on 09/17/2011 11:38:40 AM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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To: rfp1234; All

Florida has the fourth largest number of electoral votes in the nation. As a FL resident I can tell you that for the reason Morris cited, he’s already DEAD in the water here. It won’t matter if he tries to spin and backtrack on his written and spoken words about S.S. He’s not only grabbed the “third rail” of politics but he did so in a non-partisan way - ALL senior citizens - Republican, Democrat, Independent - have been alienated! And not just senior citizens but a host of others who indirectly rely on S.S. for their businesses and commercial investments.


64 posted on 09/17/2011 11:39:43 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: comebacknewt

I was slightly worried too, until I started seeing polls that came out after both debates, which showed no change in the numbers to speak of. Plus, I watched the focus group interviews and was delighted to hear their responses to both Perry and Romney.

Perry has weathered the storm, they threw everything that had at him, and none of it stuck. It clear sailing from this point out.


65 posted on 09/17/2011 11:41:17 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 !)
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To: Reagan Man
My biggest (maybe my only) policy issue with Perry is illegal immigration. That isn't my biggest concern about him though.

I think his personality rubs a lot of people the wrong way. To many, he comes across as a meaner George W. Bush without any of the charm.

It shouldn't matter, but the Indies pay a lot of attention to this. Plus, with Obambi's billion dollars and a MSM who will once again pull out all the stops to demonize his opponent, it will be VERY tough to overcome.

I am fairly pessimistic right now about our chances of beating the worst President in the history of our country. It should be a slam dunk, but it isn't playing out that way at all.

66 posted on 09/17/2011 11:43:20 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: org.whodat

General election numbers really don’t matter at this point. Perry isn’t running against Obama in the primary, he is running against Romney.


67 posted on 09/17/2011 11:43:46 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 !)
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To: T.L.Sink

“As a FL resident I can tell you that for the reason Morris cited, he’s already DEAD in the water here.”

Looks like you don’t let facts get in the way of your opinion that you state as facts.

Perry leads in InsiderAdvantage Florida poll

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/storylink_915_2139.aspx

Perry polled 29 percent to Romney’s 20 percent.

Does THIS sound like Perry is “dead in the water”?!


68 posted on 09/17/2011 11:45:30 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: T.L.Sink

Well, the polls out of Florida after the debates completely disagree with your view. Perry is still up by 9 in Florida and will take it easy.


69 posted on 09/17/2011 11:45:45 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 !)
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To: org.whodat

What cooked McCain’s goose was him telling everyone we didn’t have anything to fear if 0bama won. He pretty much said it’s okay to vote for him and many R’s did.


70 posted on 09/17/2011 11:47:10 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: Clairity
Morris is doing no such thing. The Republican candidates like that idiot Michelle Bachmann are doing the real bashing.

He's just bringing up the issues that could hurt his campaign. The difference between Palin supporters and Perry supporters is that we live in the real world and recognize the drawbacks of our candidate and know that no candidate is perfect, rather than deify and canonize politicians and act like they have no faults like Palin supporters do.

Perry has legitimate issues that the Obama campaign is going to hit him with, and there's no reason we shouldn't get those out in the open now. That doesn't mean he's not the best candidate to beat Obama. I believe he is.

71 posted on 09/17/2011 11:47:35 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: org.whodat
Yeah. I saw that.

I also saw where Ras. has Romney beating Obama.

I don't think the party survives a Romney candidacy intact though.

I see it splintering -- possibly irretrievably.

72 posted on 09/17/2011 11:48:11 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

But he is—and he isn’t.

Also, Huckster’s all charm, kind of a C-grade GOP Bill Clinton. Santorum seems genuinely sincere but less appealing.

My guess is that Perry will, like Huck last time, end up being a regional candidate. (That Southern style isn’t all that appealing outside of the South.)


73 posted on 09/17/2011 11:53:18 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I'm not trying to bring you down, but the Ras. poll showed Perry losing a net of ten points to Obama over the past couple of weeks. My guess is Ras's Presidential poll is an early indicator of the toll the attacks have taken.

If the polls 2-3 weeks from now still show Perry comfortably out ahead, then I agree he will be our nominee. I think it is still too early to reach that conclusion right now though.

Like I said, I am reasonably discouraged. I don't want to tamper enthusiasm of others though, so I'll back out of this thread now.

74 posted on 09/17/2011 11:54:35 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: comebacknewt

You make a good point. Bush alienated the conservative base when he supported the Comprehensive Immigration (a/k/a amnesty) debacle which was defeated because an angry nation rose up against it. Perry is Bush-lite on immigration with other baggage Bush didn’t have to carry, as cited by Morris.


75 posted on 09/17/2011 11:54:44 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: 9YearLurker

Those of us who aren’t stuck waiting on a candidate to enter are thinking about what this election is all about. It’s about the economy, jobs and ensuring that POS in the WH is kicked to the curb. This isn’t the 2008 primary season at all.

Dick Morris is wrong more than he’s right.


76 posted on 09/17/2011 11:54:48 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: 9YearLurker

you don’t understand.

Texas is unique, it’s part of the south and the west.

Perry will appeal everywhere but the small new england states.


77 posted on 09/17/2011 11:55:17 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 !)
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To: org.whodat
Simple answer, Obummer will beat, McCain the second, by the same margin.

You've accepted Romney as the nominee as Coulter, Ingraham and Huckabee all predicted this week?

I think Obama stands a better chance than most at reelection regardless of the nominee.

78 posted on 09/17/2011 11:55:43 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
-- It's hard to understand if your not from the south, but people from the south prefer to vote for people from the south. --

As a Yankee who has lived in the South, I tell people, "The civil War isn't over."

79 posted on 09/17/2011 11:56:53 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: dorben

I actually prefer romney over perry right now.


80 posted on 09/17/2011 11:56:53 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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