Why Rick Perry would lose the General Election (Vanity)

September 14, 2011 | no dems

[no dems]

I was so disappointed in Rick Perry's two Debate performances. The guy was so friggin' unprepared for both. And, people who watched the Debates objectively, know what so many of us who are Texans have known for years; Rick Perry is a light-weight.

FReepers, we need a candidate who can take out Obama in the Debates and Perry is not that man. Obama will wipe the floor with him, and besides, Perry has too friggin' much baggage; which I will list, in part, below:

1. The SS Ponzi Scheme thing plays well among "red-meat" Conservatives but wll not play well in the General Election.

2. His "soft" approach to Illegal Immigration and past statements about supporting Bush's "Amnesty" program will not cause the anti-Obama voters to get excited about showing up on Election Day.

3. The Guardasil debacle.

4. And, all the "sweet deals" he has cut for campaign donors in his 22 years as a "Professional Politician" has not yet began to surface.

We must remember, beating Obama is our Goal and our Mission. This is not the time to try to "send a message". The only message we need to send the first Tuesday of November 2012 is: "Pack up and get out of the White House, Barry." I'm telling you, we need to wise up; this guy cannot beat B.H.O.

[Apercu]

It boils down to this - ANY of the Republican candidates, current or unannounced - will be a better president than Barry uh uh Uhbama - who is well on his way to destroying this country as we know it and given another 4 years will complete the task.

[C. Edmund Wright]

You may be right on him being a light weight - he looked that in the debates. But here are some of your other points:

” 1. The SS Ponzi Scheme thing plays well among “red-meat” Conservatives but wll not play well in the General Election.

2. His “soft” approach to Illegal Immigration and past statements about supporting Bush’s “Amnesty” program will not cause the anti-Obama voters to get excited about showing up on Election Day.

3. The Guardasil debacle.

4. And, all the “sweet deals” he has cut for campaign donors in his 22 years as a “Professional Politician” has not yet began to surface.”

RE 1: That’s an inside the beltway talking point and I think you are wrong. Perry is right, it is a ponzi scheme, and that point will gain traction becasue, um, it is true.

RE 2: No one will tolerate Obama for four more years because of immigration. Besides, wimpy as Perry is on that, he is tougher than Obama is. And Obama’s job destruction has largely started to address this problem by supply and demand anyway.

RE 3: If Osama bin Laden as an issue is already dead, you cant’ be serious that guardicil will still be around for the general election. It’s good for Perry it’s running its course now.

RE 4: That will be an issue, but again he’s better than Obama on that issue, or less bad perhaps. It won’t cause him to lose a general election, though it stinks.

[River_Wrangler]

You don’t like Perry? Fine. Then stick with Mitt. Or is RoPaul your boy? (Hey. You DID say you’re ready to take your licks...)

I understand John McLame is still available. This is how we got him last time. Have we not learned our lesson?

Perry is not great but who among the meatheads running is better. As Rummy said,"You go to war with the army you have." Perry looks like the army we have at this time.

[wolfman23601]

I thought he was good in the debates, especially in the early going. There were countless times that he threw out a bumper sticker that shut up Romney and the moderators in Clinton-like fashion. It was obviously not his strategy to counter attack Bachmann and I think she caught him a bit off guard, but he was ready for Mitt and Wolf and will be ready for Obama. It will be easier to deal with 2 against 1 (Obama and the moderator against Perry) than the 9 against 1 he currently has.

[no dems]

Luckily we are voting for President, and not a debate captain.
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And that kind of attitude is what will put is in the “Lost” Column in November 2012. Ronald Reagan had the best ideas back in the day. Had he not been able to communicate them, he would have never had the privilege of being The Greatest President of the 20th Century.

[Kahuna]

All of our candidates have major flaws IMO, but a circular firing squad just means 4 more years of hell for America. I’m starting to think that Newt may be the last one standing simply because he can debate with the best.

[End Times Sentinel]

My number one issue is illegal aliens.

From all I can tell, Perry seems to be cut from the same cloth as Bush and McCain. And that’s just no where near good enough.

If Romney will at least come out with a reasonable plan (e verify, increased border patrols, workplace enforcement, cutting all aid to sanctuary cities), then that seems to be about as good as I’m going to get.

Hopefully, he’ll hold to his promises.

[ilgipper]

What matters is Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina (at first). Romney is kicking his butt in all those states.

Perry is killing Romney everywhere but NH. He leads in Iowa, South Carolina, Florida, and many other states. It will definitely tighten up, and can always change.

I am shocked at the sudden dismissal on FR of Romney's fully liberal past. He ran to the left of Ted Kennedy on abortion and other issues in Massachusetts, and implemented socialist healthcare. He is a failed one term governor. I don't dislike the guy, and he was a much more palpable option in 2008, but today he is the worst possible option to represent us in this election. People are magnifying Perry's lesser views and ignoring an overall strongly conservative record, and ignoring Romney's two-faced history.

[Neverforget01]

My first priority is to get rid of Obama. My second is to eliminate Romney. Obama will destroy him on Romneycare.

I don't think Palin or Bachmann is electable (just my opinion). That leaves me with Perry.

I have always considered SS a ponzi scheme. Most people with any common sense know it. My kids also go off to school every year with their proof of all kinds of vaccines, who knows if they need them (they even need additional ones for college). I can't get excited over something the candidate admitted was wrong. Romney is still backing Romneycare (yikes!).

[no dems]

Wow Rowdy; way to go. I’ve been waiting for someone to come along with a real intelligent comment. WE HAVE A WINNER, WE HAVE A WINNER. (Do I really need the sarcasm sign on this one?)

[MikefromOhio]

There are points and points within the points. I’d imagine he’s going to be working on each and every one of those.

in the end though, people still vote with their wallets/pocketbooks. That means jobs and the economy and Obama is an epic failure in that regard.

[ari-freedom]

“I only agree on point one, and only if he does not present a plan for changing it. “

That’s not the problem. Anyone can work for Perry and give him a good solid plan that only 2% of voters will read. The problem is that he won’t be able to articulate or defend it. Romney is the type of guy that will read the entire plan and memorize every single number.

[ilgipper]

What matters is Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina (at first). Romney is kicking his butt in all those states.

Perry is killing Romney everywhere but NH. He leads in Iowa, South Carolina, Florida, and many other states. It will definitely tighten up, and can always change.

I am shocked at the sudden dismissal on FR of Romney's fully liberal past. He ran to the left of Ted Kennedy on abortion and other issues in Massachusetts, and implemented socialist healthcare. He is a failed one term governor. I don't dislike the guy, and he was a much more palpable option in 2008, but today he is the worst possible option to represent us in this election. People are magnifying Perry's lesser views and ignoring an overall strongly conservative record, and ignoring Romney's two-faced history.

[smokingfrog]

#5. Rick Perry is an Aggie.

[Eagle of Liberty]

But, Social Security is “the issue” among the elderly.....AND THEY VOTE

On the SS Ponzi Scheme remark, during the next debate, I would look right into the camera and simply state, "To all of the seniors out there, I know that my remarks on SS may be alarming, but we are all grown-ups here and you are all entitled to the truth. And the truth is that this IS a Ponzi Scheme. The Government takes money from every working individual, pays out what it needs to for our seniors and then SPENDS THE REST! There is no "Lock Box". There is no Federal retirement account. The Government has been playing all of us for suckers for a long, long time and soon, the well will be all dried up."

[Jane Long]

I think the Ponzi scheme theme will play fine with seniors...while the dims try to use this as (another) scare tactic, MOST seniors understand SS is a type of unsustainable scheme. They also know they will not be cut off, by Perry or any other Repub.

As far as the other issues go, Bamster doesn't have much of a leg to stand on.

I agree that Perry did seem unprepared or, as Rush put it, tired. His team definitely has work to do in this area.

[Responsibility2nd]

You want an “intelligent reason for disagreeing” with you?

Look pal. First you have to post an intelligent vanity without the obvious intent to slam solid conservatives. Then we can discuss.

But if all you can do is whine, then please. Go sulk in the corner while the adults are talking.

[no dems]

Delusional....
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Well, that’s a little strong my brother. I wouldn’t say Perry is “Delusional”...he’s just not real smart.

[C. Edmund Wright]

“....My number one issue is illegal aliens...”

It’s an important issue, but I still say if this is true then you aren’t paying attention to the many many many many more devastating issues facing this country and you probably don’t understand that issue totally.

Actually, if some of the other issues were solved, the illegal alien issue would solve itself over time.

[RowdyFFC]

Sorry but the missive got the intelligent response it deserved.