Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

As Perry Rises, G.O.P. Elite Look Toward Romney
NY Times ^

Posted on 09/12/2011 10:35:37 PM PDT by Borough Park

As Perry Rises, G.O.P. Elite Look Toward Romney By JEFF ZELENY and MICHAEL D. SHEAR

TAMPA, Fla. — The rising presidential candidacy of Gov. Rick Perry of Texas is stirring excitement for many Republican voters but is creating unease in some quarters of the party’s establishment, particularly over his views of Social Security, which are at the root of an intensifying competition with Mitt Romney.

The decision on Monday by Tim Pawlenty, a former Republican presidential rival, to support Mr. Romney’s campaign signals the beginning of an effort by some party leaders to try to slow the ascent of Mr. Perry — or to push him to explain positions that are considered provocative.

In announcing his endorsement on Monday, Mr. Pawlenty said he believed Mr. Romney was the only candidate with the “unique qualifications to confront and master our severe economic predicament.” The judgment of Mr. Pawlenty, who dropped out of the presidential race last month, was carefully watched by some Republicans because he knows both men well.

The endorsement was a visible marker in a quietly continuing battle for the soul and direction of the Republican Party between traditional party leaders and grass-roots conservatives. To some degree it is a clash of styles and of principle versus pragmatism, but it also encompasses foreign and domestic policy differences, some of which have surfaced as the presidential campaign has intensified.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; elitists; perry; perry2012; rickperry; rinos; romney; zots4romneybots
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-42 next last
To: WFTR

Not true. The Governor can NOT force to buy insurance that covers Gardasil vaccine. He also could NOT force everyone in TX to buy instate tutition for illegal aliens. They had to pay for their own. The Legislature passed the bill with only 4 No votes. Perry merely signed it into law.


21 posted on 09/12/2011 11:25:20 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: truthguy
You could resurrect Ronald Reagan from the grave and run him and they would find a reason to complain.

If Reagan ran today, this crowd would destroy him like Perry. He signed the Therapeutic Abortion Bill in '67 and raised taxes as Gov. As far as I am concerned, Romney needs to go and then Obummer. I don't see any flaws in any of the candidates running that are not crippling in beating Obummer other than Romneycare.

22 posted on 09/12/2011 11:38:24 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Borough Park
This is one of the stupidest articles I have read in a while. The headline claims “GOP elite” supports Romney over Perry then the article gives only the example of Pawlenty’s endorsement. The same Pawlenty who has already dropped out after an extremely weak campaign and a few weeks ago was talking about Obomneycare. Is Pawlenty supposed to be the entire “GOP elite”?

Who are these so called “GOP elite” anyway? The article doesn't identify them. It just names one low level Illinois politician. The point the article makes over and over again is that these so called “GOP elite” don't think Perry can appeal to “moderates and independents”.

The NYT is clearly trying to attack Perry and create internal divisions among Republicans. But the article is so poorly written and confused that it just makes the NYT look stupid. As usual.

23 posted on 09/12/2011 11:42:47 PM PDT by detective
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Borough Park
particularly over his views of Social Security

His view is that it is structurally unsound and in need of reform to keep it from completely collapsing. Everyone else has the same view - including Romney, who said it was being run like a "criminal enterprise" vs. Perry who said it was being run like a "Ponzi scheme." Okay, they don't like Perry's terminology...say he just says something more generic like it is in "bad shape" - what does that change about the problems with the program? Absolutely nothing! The "controversy" over his comments are complete nonsense.

24 posted on 09/13/2011 12:11:49 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Grey Eagle
What I said is true.

He's said that one of the reasons for issuing the executive order was to force insurance companies to cover the vaccine so that more people would have access. After his executive order, a family couldn't buy insurance without buying coverage for the vaccine.

He did force everyone in Texas to subsidize the education of illegal aliens. Having a difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition represents a subsidy on education for people who live in the state. Everyone who pays taxes in Texas pays for that subsidy. By signing the law, he forced them to pay for the subsidy for illegal aliens.

25 posted on 09/13/2011 12:26:22 AM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Borough Park

There are plenty of “GOP Elite” looking towards Perry, too.


26 posted on 09/13/2011 1:42:36 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Borough Park

I’m not sure what Romney was trying to accomplish in that debate last night. He seemed to fade into the background. Just appeared to be sitting back and letting things unfold. He’s well prepared, but he doesn’t generate much enthusiasm. I’ve been very skeptical of the idea that he might be in cahoots with Bachmann, but last night she appeared to be in kamikazi mode toward Perry. Still seems unlikely to me though.

Newt dominates these events rhetorically. Too bad he didn’t travel a different path in days gone by. No matter how well he does in the debates, nobody wants him as the nominee.

I’m a Perry supporter, but I haven’t been impressed with his performances in the two debates he’s been in. He was a little better this time, but he just strikes me as not being very verbally facile. And probably never will be.

Cain has improved a lot over the course of the campaign so far. His presentation of that 9-9-9 plan seems a bit gimmicky although the plan itself may be a good idea.

Santorum is good on the issues, but lacks even a trace of the charisma necessary to win the presidency.

Something about Huntsman irks me. I have a feeling he would irk me even if he were just reading names out of a phone book. Heck, he wouldn’t even have to say anything; he could irk me just by standing there.

I’ve seen Bachmann be very good in the past, but last night she just looked desperate.

Ron Paul remains Ron Paul.


27 posted on 09/13/2011 2:03:13 AM PDT by FreedomForce (Perry/Cain 2012 | Perry/Palin 2016 | Palin 2020)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreedomForce

Your summation of the candidates is a pretty good one. I agree in general with your impressions of the debate.


28 posted on 09/13/2011 2:12:15 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: truthguy

You speak with much wisdom my friend...


29 posted on 09/13/2011 2:22:44 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Borough Park

The GOP Elite, MSM, RINO turds and all those Dems trying to push Romney up our rear ends can pound sand.
I will NOT vote for Mitt under any circumstances.
NO more RINOs. NOt now not ever.
REAL conservatives or go fish.


30 posted on 09/13/2011 3:24:33 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy with a teleprompter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Borough Park

The Republican rank and file don’t want either one.
DEAL WITH IT!


31 posted on 09/13/2011 3:57:48 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters--let our dead rest in peace.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreedomForce

I haven’t seen the debates.. do you know if mccotter is getting any face time?


32 posted on 09/13/2011 4:32:55 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: preacher

Once called the “Rockefeller Wing” of the GOP.


33 posted on 09/13/2011 4:34:59 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FreedomForce

“His presentation of that 9-9-9 plan seems a bit gimmicky although the plan itself may be a good idea.”

Cain is a good guy and a smart business man, but he isn’t ready for primetime.

His 999 plan would tax the rich at 9% and the poor ( who have to spend all they earn to get by) at 18%. There is no way he thought that one through.


34 posted on 09/13/2011 4:55:32 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Beagle8U

I missed where the rich were exempt from 9%.


35 posted on 09/13/2011 5:02:49 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Borough Park

Both Mittcare and Perry are unacceptable.


36 posted on 09/13/2011 5:05:41 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: flaglady47

Perry appeared rattled on the HPV and immigration assaults. Perry handled Social Security and stimulus assaults well and delivered a few very well timed bumper stickers in those exchanges where I actually thought I was listening to Bill Clinton (delivery, not rhetoric). As a whole, I thought it was a wash for Perry.


37 posted on 09/13/2011 5:11:20 AM PDT by wolfman23601
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: GatorGirl
The rich don't spend every dollar they earn just to get by, the poor do.

They will have less money spent subject to sales tax as a % of total income. If you can't see that then you aren't seeing the big picture any better than Cain did.

38 posted on 09/13/2011 12:15:41 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: truthguy
You're right. The stakes (the survival of our Republic) are too high to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Republicans have become cannibalistic, which is just how the Democrats like it.

Yes, Mitt Romney looks like a President, but he's a two-faced RINO. Michele Bachmann is attractive and smart as a whip, but she sometimes says... some odd things. Rick Perry talks a good game, but he's more than a bit slippery. Newt Gingrich is a brilliant theoretician, but he has a matched set of Samsonite travel cases for personal baggage. Herman Cain... is great. Okay, I really like him, but he's rough around the edges, policy-wise. Ron Paul is a hero of free enterprise, but his foreign policy belongs in Happy Acres, preferably under heavy sedation. John Huntsman ...well, he should be a Democrat.

The point is that almost anyone would be an improvement over what we have now in the White House: an unrepentant Marxist who detests everything and everyone that ever made America great. I'd vote for Adam Sandler before Obama, and most of his movies sucked. But at least he's a Republican.

39 posted on 09/13/2011 12:47:59 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: WFTR
He did force everyone in Texas to subsidize the education of illegal aliens. Having a difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition represents a subsidy on education for people who live in the state...

I still can't believe so many are giving Perry a pass for this, WFTR. Amazing to me. It is one of the most important issues of the last few years.... the rule of law and not rewarding people for breaking our laws seems to be irrelevant all of a sudden. Sad.

40 posted on 09/13/2011 11:45:42 PM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-42 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson