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Bachmann Hits Perry on Immigration, Social Security
newsmax.com ^ | 091211 | Newsmax Wires

Posted on 09/12/2011 4:19:55 AM PDT by VU4G10

Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry has taken the wind out of fellow candidate Michele Bachmann’s sails ever since he entered the race Aug. 13. Now the Minnesota congresswoman is ready to go back at the Texas governor during a candidates debate in Tampa, Fla., Monday, The Washington Examiner reports.

Bachmann is poised to attack Perry over his comments that Social Security is a “monstrous lie” and a “Ponzi scheme.”

A Bachmann adviser told The Examiner: "Bernie Madoff deals with Ponzi schemes, not the grandparents of America. Clearly she feels differently about the value of Social Security than Gov. Perry does. She believes Social Security needs to be saved, that it's an important safety net for Americans who have paid into it all their lives."

Perry’s view is “clearly not something that's going to sit well with the people of Florida and Iowa and South Carolina and many of the early states, where there is a large population of seniors who rely heavily on Social Security.” the adviser said. “For [Perry] to scare them is wrong."

And Bachmann isn't stopping there. Keep Conservatives United, a Super PAC supporting her is set to start a radio ad attacking Perry for his immigration stance. The ad is scheduled to air during conservative talk radio shows in South Carolina starting Tuesday, The Hill reports.

The ad portrays Bachmann as tough on illegal immigration whileblasting Perry for failing to curb it during his stint as Texas governor.

"Michele Bachmann believes employers should be required to check the legal status of people they hire with E-Verify," the ad says. "Perry doesn't, so illegals take jobs."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bachmann; openborderperry; perry; rinorick
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To: sodpoodle
OMG - Tim Pawlenty now on FOX - endorsing Mitt Romney.

RINOs tend to run in herds.

21 posted on 09/12/2011 5:03:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: indylindy
sooooo, all this angst for nothing.

Spin, spin, all you can do is spin.

The fact that Perry wants to reform SS does not change the fact that, as it is currentlly structured, it IS a Ponzi scheme.

And Bachmann is shameless to try and attack Perry for telling the truth. Revealing her to be an opportunist rather than the principled conservative she and her supporters pretend that she is.

22 posted on 09/12/2011 5:05:16 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

blah blah blah

You and your ilk have been spinning for months now.

All I did was report what was said on FOX News.

So SS is a Ponzi scheme. Well, yes it is. Now, what is your point?

Never mind, I am tired of you.


23 posted on 09/12/2011 5:08:13 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Nervous Tick
Reagan hired John Sears (who screwed him royally in Iowa through incompetence essentially giving it to G.H.W. Bush) and subsequently had to fire him from the 1980 campaign--I mean right on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

Did that bad choice in a campaign manager make Ronald Reagan a bad leader? (by your logic).

24 posted on 09/12/2011 5:09:16 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (De-RINOFICATION of the GOP leadership is Job Number ONE. Let's GIT 'ER DONE!!)
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To: ari-freedom

So the state is not responsible for protecting its citizens, we need to cancel the national guard as a waste of money if that is true.


25 posted on 09/12/2011 5:10:25 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: indylindy
As you have stated before, Governor Perry has no one to blame but himself for the message breakdown. While he MAY has said something about reforming SS in the debate is was so demonstrative in defending his use of the “Ponzi” term, that was the only memory the watcher was left with.
26 posted on 09/12/2011 5:14:02 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Nervous Tick

Reagan used Rollins and won in landslides.


27 posted on 09/12/2011 5:16:53 AM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I would agree with that. The others including Palin, know that it is a touchy subject and has to be addressed carefully so as not to scare voters away.

We won’t be reforming anything if we don’t win elections.


28 posted on 09/12/2011 5:18:09 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy
You and your ilk have been spinning for months now.

You're one of the biggest slimeballs on FR, you have no standing to lecture ANYONE on spin or methods.

So SS is a Ponzi scheme. Well, yes it is. Now, what is your point?

The point is obvious to anyone who isn't pimping Bachmann.

Bachmann's main selling point was that of being a principled conservative - the only real means of differentiating herself from someone like Perry (who I agree can be and has been an opportunist).

So what does she do with the Social Security issue? Because she smells a political opportunity, she is going to bash Perry for telling the truth about Social Security.

Which means she is as much an opportunist as Perry.

Bye-bye, Bachmann differentiation. Now she's just another opportunistic politician, albeit one with a thin resume and no executive experience.

So tell us again why we should consider voting for her over someone with a resume and executive experience?

29 posted on 09/12/2011 5:18:20 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: org.whodat; ari-freedom

http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=170453

Feds now have control over the Guard.


30 posted on 09/12/2011 5:18:59 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Reagan had the sense to fire him.

Bachmann’s poor advisors don’t get fired — they quit.

But, yeah, whether Reagan or Bachmann, it shows poor judgment in the individual case. Whether individual cases of poor judgment aggregate to an overall indictment of poor judgment is seen in hindsight. Reagan passed — his good judgment outweighed his bad. Will Bachmann? I see her cases of poor judgment piling up against a rather thin base of experience.

I’ll tell you this: if she abandons her conservatism to join Romney in attacking Perry over Socialist Security, she’s dead to me. That’s one big case of REALLY poor judgment.


31 posted on 09/12/2011 5:21:28 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: dirtboy

You go ahead and carry your little snit from thread to thread. I am not playing.

Good day.


32 posted on 09/12/2011 5:23:08 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dirtboy

>> Because she smells a political opportunity, she is going to bash Perry for telling the truth about Social Security.

It blows me away that this isn’t patently obvious to everyone.

Romney, Perry and others are so often accused of cynical flipflopping that it’s cliche.

Bachmann does it in the most nakedly cynical way, and her “conservative” defenders still defend her on the point. Astounding.


33 posted on 09/12/2011 5:24:21 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: VU4G10

I do not make the mistake of putting any politicians on a pedestal, they will fall off. I liked Michele, until now. If anyone put her ona pedestal, she’s just fallen off. The door is wide open for Sarah.


34 posted on 09/12/2011 5:24:31 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: org.whodat

It would be like patching up a broken overflowing dam. You fix one crack and another crack develops somewhere else because the entire structure is messed up.


35 posted on 09/12/2011 5:24:46 AM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: ari-freedom

>> Reagan used Rollins and won in landslides.

Thirty years ago. And he’s built a solid record of mediocrity and increasing liberalism ever sense. Hiring him was poor judgment, whatever he did for Reagan.


36 posted on 09/12/2011 5:26:45 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: indylindy
In other words, you can't answer what I am saying, so you will just slither off like the hack you are.

Adios, chump.

37 posted on 09/12/2011 5:27:05 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: indylindy

Never thought he wanted to get rid of it. We know that isn’t going to happen...until it happens.


38 posted on 09/12/2011 5:27:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Texas Eagle

She’s doesn’t have a shot at being president so why is she hurting the party?


39 posted on 09/12/2011 5:28:09 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Nervous Tick

“I’ll tell you this: if she abandons her conservatism to join Romney in attacking Perry over Socialist Security, she’s dead to me. That’s one big case of REALLY poor judgment.”

yeah at this point I’m getting concerned but she still has a chance to say no to those advisers. She deserves a chance because 1) we know what the media tries to do to us and 2) she’s been reasonably good so far on all the other issues


40 posted on 09/12/2011 5:29:14 AM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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