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Full title: The 9/11 victims America wants to forget: The 200 jumpers who flung themselves from the Twin Towers who have been 'airbrushed from history'
1 posted on 09/09/2011 6:26:45 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I think I need a total news blackout this weekend. I don’t have tv. So it just means no news on the net. I can’t take this stuff.


2 posted on 09/09/2011 6:30:17 PM PDT by Huck (If you are in a union, then bow to your COMMIE masters.)
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And in this country of intense religious fervor, many believe that to be a ‘jumper’ was to choose suicide rather than accept the fate of God — and suicide in whatever circumstances is considered shameful or, indeed, a sin that will send you to Hell.

Anti-religion bigotry claptrap.

They faced certain death either way.

When the flames get close enough, you're only choice is to jump.

Nobody can just stand there while their flesh is burning.

Escaping flames is not suicide, and it's not the "easy way out."

There was no "easy way out."

5 posted on 09/09/2011 6:35:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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Those images are burned into my brain. I will never forget seeing the bodies fall. Horrible doesn’t begin to describe it.


7 posted on 09/09/2011 6:36:09 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Watching people jump from 20 stories and up was the most horrific part of 9-11.


8 posted on 09/09/2011 6:36:20 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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I don’t want them forgotten, I want them avenged.


9 posted on 09/09/2011 6:39:35 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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“And in this country of intense religious fervour, many believe that to be a ‘jumper’ was to choose suicide rather than accept the fate of God — and suicide in whatever circumstances is considered shameful or, indeed, a sin that will send you to Hell.”

These people were murdered just as plainly as if they had stayed and burned to death. That they were going to die was not in question. The only question was in what manner. One last choice in life, breathing clean, clear air or suffering the flames inflicted upon our national soul by followers of a murderous cult of death.

How anyone can fault them for their choice is beyond my understanding. Until we are faced with the same horrible choices, we cannot know how we would choose our last moments. I doubt that I would choose to stay and burn to death. I believe that I would say one last prayer to my God along the lines of asking forgiveness, and that He take my soul into His loving embrace. Then I believe that I would step off the ledge.

I pray that these jumpers had that relationship with the one true and living God and had the time and prescence of mind to say a prayer before making one of the most horrible choices that anyone could be faced with.

God Bless the 9/11 families.


10 posted on 09/09/2011 6:39:39 PM PDT by Grunthor (Perry. Because in your heart you know he's right.)
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But there are other, more complicated, reasons. In the aftermath of this attack on America’s sovereign territory — a period of intense patriotism — some considered that to choose to die rather than be killed showed a lack of courage. And in this country of intense religious fervour, many believe that to be a ‘jumper’ was to choose suicide rather than accept the fate of God — and suicide in whatever circumstances is considered shameful or, indeed, a sin that will send you to Hell

Good grief. Jumping out of building that is on fire is not suicide. This author is friggin nuts and is just using this as some feeble attempt to bash Christians. It is also an insult to these poor victims.

12 posted on 09/09/2011 6:40:26 PM PDT by plain talk
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I’m not forgetting.

Nor do I wish to.


14 posted on 09/09/2011 6:40:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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As a professional Firefighter for 25 years I do not call myself an expert,but when Mr. Red gets behind your ass there isn’t a decision to be made. You are going. You cannot stay, It reach’s a point where you go. It isn’t suicide, it is escape, you take it because you can no longer stay.You must move.If the window is the only move you make it.There is no shame in it.

The shame is for people who weren’t there to make any statement at all about why these people left. They left because the spot they were in was untenable. Stick you hand on the stove’s burner, and see. You will move it, believe me.


18 posted on 09/09/2011 6:44:54 PM PDT by Venturer
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It never even occurred to me that anyone would judge those who jumped. It wasn’t really “suicide,” I mean, they were going to die either way. It was just a matter of fall or be burned. How can someone judge a person who was given the choice Fall or Burn and picked Fall?


19 posted on 09/09/2011 6:45:05 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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They can try to airbrush all they want, they can’t destroy the truth. All their pathetic attempts at appeasement will backfire. I will NEVER forget those images, watching innocent people die is something that can’t be unseen.


23 posted on 09/09/2011 6:48:20 PM PDT by Shadow44
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“But there are other, more complicated, reasons. In the aftermath of this attack on America’s sovereign territory — a period of intense patriotism — some considered that to choose to die rather than be killed showed a lack of courage.”

I’ve never heard that.


25 posted on 09/09/2011 6:48:27 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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When KSM meets his end; he should have to choose: the flames or the fall. Nothing else will do.


27 posted on 09/09/2011 6:49:19 PM PDT by joelt
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Just imagine.


30 posted on 09/09/2011 6:50:30 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Intense religious fervor?

Right. There is so much religious fervor that the clergy and any prayer has been banned at the memorial ceremony.

Imagine, no mention of God at a memorial ceremony.

Bloomberg and Obama. No wonder.


35 posted on 09/09/2011 6:54:21 PM PDT by ladyjane
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I don’t know what I would do, but I have a horrible fear of burns. It’s not a choice anyone wants to make.


38 posted on 09/09/2011 6:55:03 PM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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41 posted on 09/09/2011 6:55:58 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry, Perry/Palin, Palin or Perry, Perry or Palin 2012....Any Questions?)
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The BEST DOCUMENTARY ever. The Falling Man
43 posted on 09/09/2011 6:56:12 PM PDT by BigFinn (BigHat wisdom: Always drink upstream from the herd.)
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I have never even thought of these poor souls that jumped as suicide, and ignorantly I never thought that families would reject the idea that their loved one would do it because it brought shame. Is it odd to have never thought of this?

It is these “jumpers” and the passengers of Flight 93 that haunt me the most. Both had to make decisions that I am not sure I could handle.

I don’t think I can watch the memorials on TV on Sunday, I remember it like it was yesterday and the hurt for the families is overwhelming. God Bless them all.


48 posted on 09/09/2011 6:59:59 PM PDT by Cathy
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I have never even thought of these poor souls that jumped as suicide, and ignorantly I never thought that families would reject the idea that their loved one would do it because it brought shame. Is it odd to have never thought of this?

It is these “jumpers” and the passengers of Flight 93 that haunt me the most. Both had to make decisions that I am not sure I could handle.

I don’t think I can watch the memorials on TV on Sunday, I remember it like it was yesterday and the hurt for the families is overwhelming. God Bless them all.


53 posted on 09/09/2011 7:05:03 PM PDT by Cathy
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