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The 9/11 victims America wants to forget: The 200 jumpers who flung themselves from the Twin Towers
Daily Mail ^ | 9/9/11 | Tom Leonard

Posted on 09/09/2011 6:26:42 PM PDT by Nachum

Almost all of them jumped alone, although eyewitnesses talked of a couple who held hands as they fell. One woman, in a final act of modesty, appeared to be holding down her skirt. Others tried to make parachutes out of curtains or tablecloths, only to have them wrenched from their grip by the force of their descent. The fall was said to take about ten seconds. It would vary according to the body position and how long it took to reach terminal velocity — around 125mph in most cases, but if someone fell head down with their body straight, as

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911jumpers; america; fallingman; islam; religionbashing; respectdannyh; tenthanniversary911; victims; wants
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Full title: The 9/11 victims America wants to forget: The 200 jumpers who flung themselves from the Twin Towers who have been 'airbrushed from history'
1 posted on 09/09/2011 6:26:45 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I think I need a total news blackout this weekend. I don’t have tv. So it just means no news on the net. I can’t take this stuff.


2 posted on 09/09/2011 6:30:17 PM PDT by Huck (If you are in a union, then bow to your COMMIE masters.)
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To: Huck

As will I. I will spend my time watching my copy of “Band of Brothers”. Somehow that always helps.


3 posted on 09/09/2011 6:32:47 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: Nachum
And in this country of intense religious fervor, many believe that to be a ‘jumper’ was to choose suicide rather than accept the fate of God — and suicide in whatever circumstances is considered shameful or, indeed, a sin that will send you to Hell.

Anti-religion bigotry claptrap.

They faced certain death either way.

When the flames get close enough, you're only choice is to jump.

Nobody can just stand there while their flesh is burning.

Escaping flames is not suicide, and it's not the "easy way out."

There was no "easy way out."

5 posted on 09/09/2011 6:35:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: momtothree
Did they worry that they wouldn’t go to heaven since it was a suicide?

Your a real nice poster Id tell you where to go but I don't want to get the boot

6 posted on 09/09/2011 6:36:01 PM PDT by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: Nachum

Those images are burned into my brain. I will never forget seeing the bodies fall. Horrible doesn’t begin to describe it.


7 posted on 09/09/2011 6:36:09 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Nachum

Watching people jump from 20 stories and up was the most horrific part of 9-11.


8 posted on 09/09/2011 6:36:20 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Nachum

I don’t want them forgotten, I want them avenged.


9 posted on 09/09/2011 6:39:35 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: Nachum

“And in this country of intense religious fervour, many believe that to be a ‘jumper’ was to choose suicide rather than accept the fate of God — and suicide in whatever circumstances is considered shameful or, indeed, a sin that will send you to Hell.”

These people were murdered just as plainly as if they had stayed and burned to death. That they were going to die was not in question. The only question was in what manner. One last choice in life, breathing clean, clear air or suffering the flames inflicted upon our national soul by followers of a murderous cult of death.

How anyone can fault them for their choice is beyond my understanding. Until we are faced with the same horrible choices, we cannot know how we would choose our last moments. I doubt that I would choose to stay and burn to death. I believe that I would say one last prayer to my God along the lines of asking forgiveness, and that He take my soul into His loving embrace. Then I believe that I would step off the ledge.

I pray that these jumpers had that relationship with the one true and living God and had the time and prescence of mind to say a prayer before making one of the most horrible choices that anyone could be faced with.

God Bless the 9/11 families.


10 posted on 09/09/2011 6:39:39 PM PDT by Grunthor (Perry. Because in your heart you know he's right.)
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To: al baby

You completely misunderstood what I meant. My point is how traumatic thoughts must have been for the people who had to do this. In no way, shape or form am I saying that they wouldn’t go to heaven... if you read my one line hoping/praying that they jumped and then they were in heaven and never felt any sort of pain.

I apologize if I wasn’t clear. My point was completely misunderstood by you and I hope no other FR misunderstands it as well. I am certain that thoughts of all sorts must have swirled in their minds before they jumped and that was agonizing.


11 posted on 09/09/2011 6:39:47 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Nachum
But there are other, more complicated, reasons. In the aftermath of this attack on America’s sovereign territory — a period of intense patriotism — some considered that to choose to die rather than be killed showed a lack of courage. And in this country of intense religious fervour, many believe that to be a ‘jumper’ was to choose suicide rather than accept the fate of God — and suicide in whatever circumstances is considered shameful or, indeed, a sin that will send you to Hell

Good grief. Jumping out of building that is on fire is not suicide. This author is friggin nuts and is just using this as some feeble attempt to bash Christians. It is also an insult to these poor victims.

12 posted on 09/09/2011 6:40:26 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I agree. It’s NOT suicide because they didn’t have a choice.


13 posted on 09/09/2011 6:40:45 PM PDT by ak267
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To: Nachum

I’m not forgetting.

Nor do I wish to.


14 posted on 09/09/2011 6:40:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: al baby; momtothree

I do not believe that mom mean’t anything derogatory by her question.


15 posted on 09/09/2011 6:41:17 PM PDT by Grunthor (Perry. Because in your heart you know he's right.)
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To: momtothree
Calling it "suicide" is patently ridiculous.

Do you have any idea how people react when a fire is coming at them?

You're like a real-life combination of the Scarecrow and the Tin Man.

16 posted on 09/09/2011 6:41:46 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Again... I am sorry I was misunderstood. I don’t think they had any choice whatsoever. My point was I think the thoughts in their own minds before jumping had to just be agonizing and fearful. I didn’t structure the sentence correctly and for that I apologize.


17 posted on 09/09/2011 6:44:50 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Nachum

As a professional Firefighter for 25 years I do not call myself an expert,but when Mr. Red gets behind your ass there isn’t a decision to be made. You are going. You cannot stay, It reach’s a point where you go. It isn’t suicide, it is escape, you take it because you can no longer stay.You must move.If the window is the only move you make it.There is no shame in it.

The shame is for people who weren’t there to make any statement at all about why these people left. They left because the spot they were in was untenable. Stick you hand on the stove’s burner, and see. You will move it, believe me.


18 posted on 09/09/2011 6:44:54 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Nachum

It never even occurred to me that anyone would judge those who jumped. It wasn’t really “suicide,” I mean, they were going to die either way. It was just a matter of fall or be burned. How can someone judge a person who was given the choice Fall or Burn and picked Fall?


19 posted on 09/09/2011 6:45:05 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: momtothree

I know you are taking it on the chin, but I understand where you are coming from. Hang in.


20 posted on 09/09/2011 6:45:16 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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