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Oh My...the you know what is going to hit the fan now.
1 posted on 09/08/2011 12:13:47 PM PDT by CitizenM
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To: CitizenM

Is the 4th Circuit considered conservative or left-leaning?


2 posted on 09/08/2011 12:16:18 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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ok so if states can not sue and people can not sue who can?


5 posted on 09/08/2011 12:18:31 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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BUMP


6 posted on 09/08/2011 12:20:08 PM PDT by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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They made sure the courts were stacked before they let O fly in on his magic carpet.


10 posted on 09/08/2011 12:26:35 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOs!)
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The courts have been so twisted by special interests that there is no such thing as justice.


11 posted on 09/08/2011 12:27:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Oh, I alomost orgot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

Cut, paste and send to you email contacts ASAP.


12 posted on 09/08/2011 12:27:54 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOs!)
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3 judge decision, one judge was appointed by Clinton and two by the Obozo
13 posted on 09/08/2011 12:29:57 PM PDT by drypowder
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The courts are part of the Fedgov, and few judges want to bite the hand that feeds them.


14 posted on 09/08/2011 12:32:42 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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If states don’t have standing, it seems no one does. The case claims that individual citizens do but that it is a tax. If it is a tax, the citizen won’t have a general taxpayer standing (that doesn’t exist according to the Supreme Court) to challenge it. If it is a commerce issue, as it likely is, it is indeed the state that has standing. To simplify this:

Regulation of commerce- state may sue
Tax- no one may sue under this case


19 posted on 09/08/2011 12:51:15 PM PDT by wrhssaxensemble (We need an electable conservative in 2012!)
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I don’t really understand this, so I’ll be sure to listen to TGO today for what I know will be a thorough explanation, well-grounded in the law.


20 posted on 09/08/2011 12:51:26 PM PDT by American Quilter (aka American Hobbit)
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This is good news.

No lower court or Appeals court is going to decide Obamacare, and Hussein is running out the clock.

This will get the issue to SCOTUS sooner!


21 posted on 09/08/2011 12:51:29 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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I have a question: Just exactly who does the legal system thinks has “standing”? I’ve heard this citizen has no standing and that citizen has no standing. Now it is states that have no standing.

The jury box has now been passed.


28 posted on 09/08/2011 1:14:32 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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By saying Virgina has no right to sue, the Federal employees in black robes are effectively upholding the Virginia law outlawing enforcement of the individual mandate.

Virgina should make hast to send a letter to every federal IRS agent in the state warning them of arrest and jail time should they attempt to rob a citizen of Virgina of his or her right to health self-determination.

I look forward to seeing IRS agents siting in a cold Virgina Jail cell.


29 posted on 09/08/2011 1:16:50 PM PDT by Monorprise
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Does that mean the Federal Government cannot sue a state?
I am so confused.....what is the next step?


31 posted on 09/08/2011 1:22:30 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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re: “...But the court on Thursday stopped short of ruling whether the individual mandate in the health care law is constitutional; it strictly examined Virginia’s right to sue. ..”

Does a state have any recourse against the federal government?

(Like I said, I am so confused...)


32 posted on 09/08/2011 1:27:23 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Well, if they dismissed the appeal, that would mean the lower court ruling will stand.

I’m saying this purely based on the article. I haven’t read the ruling nor do I have time to do so right now.


38 posted on 09/08/2011 1:54:56 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: CitizenM

Bump


57 posted on 09/09/2011 12:03:22 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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