Posted on 09/07/2011 5:54:25 AM PDT by markomalley
Imagine this scenario: The IRS may soon just do your taxes for you and send you the bill.
If this sounds farfetched, its not.
With a new congressional super committee tasked with finding $1.5 trillion in cuts by November, creative ways to find additional revenue are in high demand. And allowing the IRS to prepare you taxes could be one solution.
The idea has been around for a while, but has been picking up steam in recent years. In 2006, Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) argued it would close a $345 billion annual difference between what the government believes taxpayers owe them and what the IRS actually collects, which he calls the tax gap.
I think the solution [to the tax gap problem] is to get rid of the middle-man and no fees required, he said.
Obamas former Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers Austan Goolsbee made a strong case for it in a 2006 New York Times op-ed, explaining, the revenue service could send you a tax form already filled out with the information it has for you a Simple Return rather than a blank tax form. You would simply check the numbers against your W-2 and 1099 and then sign it.
But this isnt just an idea floated by senators and presidential advisers. While running for president, then-Sen. Barack Obama touted it during a 2007 speech at the Tax Policy Institute: The government already collects wage and bank account information, he said, so theres no reason the IRS cant send Americans pre-filled tax forms to verify.
While the notion of allowing government to encroach on yet another aspect of our lives might sound like a hard sell, members of the Computer and Communications Industry Association (CCIA) believe this is a very real threat.
There is a fundamental conflict of interest if the tax collectors also become the tax preparer, said CCIA President and CEO Ed Black. If you dont trust the fox to guard your hen house, why trust the IRS to do your taxes. Its the same exact thing. They make it sound so convenient, but its really just a convenient way to kiss your deductions and tax credits goodbye.
Black is among the increasing number of voices who worry the super committee might see this as a quick way to raise taxes by $345 billion per year the amount of the tax gap without a single member of Congress ever having to vote for a tax increase.
Most members of Congress, especially the Republicans, do not want to vote for a tax increase, Black said. But if the super committee calls having the IRS do peoples taxes an accounting change or a convenience to the taxpayer, they raise taxes by hundreds of billions of dollars per year and no one even knows about it.
Advocates argue that allowing the IRS to prepare tax returns is a creative solution that simplifies the tax code, provides convenience to the taxpayer, and helps America balance its budget. As then-Senator Obama said during that same 2007 campaign speech: Making this change would save Americans more than two billion dollars in tax preparer fees, more than 200 million hours of work, and an incalculable amount of headache and heartburn.
This means no more worry. No more wasted time. No more extra expenses for a tax preparer, he said.
Its brilliantly Machiavellian, says CCIAs Black.
So how would letting the IRS do your taxes actually close a $345 billion annual tax gap?
First, its important to note that your accountant or storefront tax prep company like H&R Block or electronic-filing software whoever helps you do your taxes all work for you. Sure, they must comply with the law, but it is in their best financial interest to help you pay as little as legally appropriate. If they do this well, you will continue to use them. In a sense, they have an adversarial relationship with the IRS.
But theres another systemic problem. Goolsbee is correct in noting that the government already knows how much money you earn (via W2 forms and 1099′s). But what they do not necessarily know (unless you assume they know all) is which tax credits and deductions you might be legally entitled to.
The IRS can do your taxes only if it has all your financial information, explains Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. The demands for more information about your economic life will increase.
For example, if you get married or have a baby, getting a deduction would be contingent on informing the IRS of your change of life status. The same goes for buying or selling a house, caring for a sick relative, giving to charity, or any of the other life events that might lower the amount of taxes you owe the government or entitle you to a bigger refund.
If the IRS does the preparation, says Club for Growth executive director David Keating, people will wind up paying too much because the IRS wont be on the lookout for loopholes that could cut your taxes now, or next year.
But the fact that citizens would likely pay too much is a feature, not a bug.
In March, Congressman Jim Cooper (D-TN-05) introduced the Simple Return Act (H.R. 1069). The congressmans press release called it, a bill that would get the IRS to do your taxes for you. He also noted that the Simple Return would allow the IRS to fill out a basic tax return for every American with the financial information it already receives from each taxpayers employer and financial institution: W-2 and 1099.
Cooper estimated that 40 million Americans would be eligible for the service, but some suspect this would just be the beginning. To combat the push, Rep. Sam Johnson (R-Tex.) has authored H.R. 2528, the Taxpayer Freedom Protection Act, to rescind the authority of the Secretary of the Treasury to develop a return-free tax system.
It is unclear whether or not the super committee will actually propose this solution, but anti-tax activists, as well as those who represent the interests of tax preparers, are taking it seriously. Still, for something that has been openly discussed by everyone from Barack Obama to senators and congressmen, the idea is receiving remarkably little press coverage.
What’s next, the government collects your paycheck and sends you what they think you need?
In your dreams.
In order to do your taxes they have to track every dollar you make and spend.
There have already been proposals for exactly that.
the 1040 uberEZ:
How much did you make last year? $________________
Send it in.
Thank You,
Your Friends at the IRS
Millions of people do their own. There is no middle man.
This is just another way to scam money out of people without them knowing it. "Just sign here."
If they want to close loopholes, a consumer, rather than an income tax would do the trick. The problem is, democrats would also be forced to pay taxes, so the dem politicians would never go along with it.
There was a proposal to do just that in the UK last year. Don't know what ever became of it.
Like letting your bookie pick horses for you.
They already do this. It’s called Tax Estimate notices.
However, they give you minimum writeoffs, deductions, child credits, etc.
For example they sent me a 2009 tax estimate bill for $19,000. And asked me to sign and return with payment. Or I could send in my own tax forms within 30 days. I sent my own and and received a rebate (overpayment) check from them for $2,500. Only a $21,500 swing. LOL!
That’s a pretty stupid idea. Sure, the IRS might have your income figures but how long would it take them to prepare forms for your verification and signature? Information doesn’t start gettting to them until 1/31 each year and they wouldn’t be able to process that info by 4/15. Super employees they are not. Move the filing deadline to December maybe?
Not to mention deductions as already stated in the article. I guess the proponents of this proposal figure taxpayers would be too stupid to realize they are entitled to deductions or do they intend to do away with those also?
Red flags went higher after reading this failure’s name: “Obamas former Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers Austan Goolsbee made a strong case for it in a 2006”
Millions of people do their own. There is no middle man.
This is just another way to scam money out of people without them knowing it. "Just sign here."
If they want to close loopholes, a consumer, rather than an income tax would do the trick. The problem is, democrats would also be forced to pay taxes, so the dem politicians would never go along with it.
And if I do my own taxes, do I get a credit? There’s no way the IRS could do my taxes unless they manage my properties, too.
Don’t give them ideas. Though some already like that one.
It will just guarantee that every taxpayer will get a bill, and never a refund. Just mail in a check, and don’t even think about contesting what we say you owe, if you know what’s good for you.
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The brits have done this or are thinking about doing this.
I would be rich if I had MY lump sum.
P.S. They're not getting my mattress!!!
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