Posted on 09/05/2011 4:50:33 AM PDT by JosephSmithNAW
Perry's word "1200 miles from Brownsville to El Paso two things how long do you think it will take to build that, and then if you build a 30 foot wall from Brownsville to El Paso the 35 foot ladder business is real good, you got to have people on the ground."
This is stupid and this line of argument, when it came from the pundits and the talking heads has been busted before. No one is saying that just build the fence and leave it there. Proponents of the fence have always said that the fence is only ONE of the many important steps that have to taken jointly with others to secure the border
I have no idea why Perry is so hell bent on committing political suicide. He had little credibility on immigration to begin with because of his stance on dream act, sanctuary cities etc. Now he has to stretch this to breaking point? I hope his positions on Amnesty and other immigration issues do not follow in this same mold.
In 2008 McCain went from frontrunner to single digit candidate in the GOP primary because he embraced comprehensive immigration reform, amnesty and the rest of that nonsense. It was only after he got an earful from GOP primary voters and made a back flip on this, that he was able to revive himself in New Hampshire.
You would think candidates would learn from the history of past elections
Or, we could stop giving illegals the entitlement benefits that some Americans don’t get...take the cheeze from under the rat’s nose...IF the Feds would allow it!
That would work on some but others will take half minimum wage and consider it a good deal to get away from where they were at. Got to crack down on employers.
But the real danger to the US should require a decent National Guard anyway patrolling the border as the coast Guard patrols the coast.
Nat’l Guard should be for homeland defence and Reserve should be active duty backup units.
Like I said pretty desolate.
Desolate = easy to hide, hard to monitor, and easy to cross
All the more reason to build a well manned wall. If Israel can man a 400 mile wall with a population of 8 million, then by extrapolation a country of 300 million can conceivably man a wall of a length of 15,000 miles. Tired of the BS.
We could just open a new Military Base along the border. It would be two thousand miles long and fifty feet wide. LOL
Israel is exactly the example we need to look at. If anyone thinks their wall is unmanned they’re uninformed. If they think low-tech fence they’re nuts.
In our case the Mexicans aren’t lobbing rockets into cities and infiltrating with suicide bombers or ied planters, but it proves that a fence alone is a dumb idea.
And to monitor 1200 miles of border will take a division at a minimum, and that will cost a billion anyway.
If the force uses high tech FLIR, Motion and sound detection, then a no man’s land will be as effective as a fence
And as Marlowe said, until laws are enforced, the fence is moot. They will just come to visit on a visitors visa, come freely thru the checkpoint, and simply not return south of the border.
Glad to hear it was facetious. Sorry. Sometimes I’m slow on the uptake.
1200 mile Ft Apache....until the word police complain about native american abuse. :-)
It’s OK. I’m already getting kicked around today for an analogy I posted on another thread.
I’ve got a million things to get done around the house today and I keep hanging around here. LOL
Whatever the future brings, I have no idea what the remedy for our porous Border will be. How times have changed since I was a kid 50 years ago.
What analogy...what thread?
I tend to like a fence as part of the deal as well. However, until we come up with a way for a temporary labor force to come and go we will continue to have a problem. The problem we have now is temporary, or seasonal, workers bring families and stay. Once they get a foothold they provide the access point for friends and relatives back home.
Until the employment issue is dealt with the magnet drawing these workers will be strong enough for them to overcome just about any barrier.
The more I think about it, a fence is not a good idea. The fence will get built and the politicians will say they fixed the problem and everything will continue as it has for the last 30 years. Until Congress and the President are committed to enforcing the immigration laws, a fence is just a waste of chain link and cement.
This is something I hadn't thought about. I'll have to consider it.
The other part of the problem that isn't being addressed is the magnet that the work here creates. There are some jobs that migrants are doing that Americans just don't want to do. It seems to me if we could create a system for temporary workers that would carry punishments for employers as well as the workers that are so severe it would create an incentive for employers to work within the system.
If the lure of jobs is controlled and benefits are denied to those outside the system the magnet ends.
Now the problem of the children brought here as babies has to be dealt with. A large group of children raised here with no ties to any other country live here illegally. They can not get SS#'s and are in a permanent underclass. This problem will just get worse.
If you buy produce in a grocery store, probably most of it was picked by an illegal alien.
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