Posted on 09/03/2011 1:35:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry says he opposes a fence along the U.S. border with Mexico.
Speaking to hundreds of New Hampshire voters at a private reception Saturday afternoon, the Texas governor says a fence would be ineffective and take too long to build.
The comments, which produced one angry shout, expose a rift with some conservative voters over Perry's immigration record. Tea party activists in Texas have been particularly upset by his steady opposition to the fence. He also signed a law giving illegal immigrants in-state tuition for Texas universities.
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I what a fence, boots on the ground and aligators in the river, and no one in elected ofice who promotes more illegal immigration by providing illegls or their children with entitlements that I have to pay for!
As long as everyone of significance agrees to those standards even countries at war will adhere to them ~ the consequences of failure to do so are too brutal to even contemplate.
One consequence of those laws is long stretches of open water with no urban area or farm settlements. A few guys with a few machine guns can pretty well keep the strays out in those cases.
The Rio Grande, however, only flows through what can arguably be called desert for a relatively short distance.
Good fences make good neighbors
One effect the San Diego County fence has had is it has sent ILLEGAL crossers further east into the desert where the harsh desert conditions work to stop them. It's no longer an easy crossing like it used to be thanks to the fence.
I think it was four or five times, State Board of Education and three times to the legislature. Once or twice for State Board?
We stopped at a roadside cafe and talked to a family whose visiting family members would be returning to Hungary the next day.
I asked how they got out of Hungary to visit and they said, "Grandmother home." IOW, they wouldn't let everybody leave at once...kept a family member "hostage" to ensure the return of those allowed out.
It was interesting...and I haven't thought about any of this for a long time!
The issue is your honesty and apparent willingness to spread rumors.
I wouldn’t support spreading lies or distortions even against obama and have been accused of being “proabortion” because some so called prolifers like to spin like a Maytag and I’ll call them on it.
If your school district actually sent out letter as you say that Texas schools did, then ok, I’ll accept that you simply assumed it was common practice statewide. No biggie.
But that isn’t what I’m thinking now, I’m still thinking you thought you could say that and not get challenged on it.
“Is that the image you want for the land of the free and home of the brave?”
You made the comment that fences keep people in. In return, I showed you a prison fence that kept criminals inside so you could sleep better at night. Quite a percent of those in that fence are illegals. Now, if you really want, we can tear down that fence and pass out a map to your house. It’s an old article but the numbers from 2000 are 18% for Texas. California, it was 31%. Here’s your proof that I’m not full of “crap” on this subject:
http://www.urban.org/publications/410366.html
“We start as a police state at the borders, no one in and no one out without permission?”
Hmm, last time I flew out of the country, I had to get permission. Had to get permission to get back in. Dang those pesky passports and customs. Last time I cross the border at El Paso, I crossed some bridge and there were guys in uniform... lots of signs and flags, too... some cars were pulled off to the side and their owners were none too happy. Can’t think why we weren’t able to zip willy nilly back and forth the river.
Now, who’s full of crap?
We had a fireworks show every night at one of the sites we patrolled. There was a Russian/GDR artillery practice range to our East. They fired "short" on the range because even East Germany is pretty urban compared to most of America. Towns everywhere.
However, if they'd fired "long" they'd hit us.
You can get used to that reasonably well ~ we were far enough away the sound was, for the most part, muffled.
Sometimes we'd go North toward Hof (where there was a big intelligence operation), and other times we'd go South on the Czech border. That was a really grim place. We were overlooking a town once where there was only ONE motor vehicle. There were thousands of people there but ONE motor vehicle. Strange stuff.
Czechoslovakia had been, at one time, a major manufacturer of automobiles!
The trouble is that it’s not along the border
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/28/nation/la-na-texas-fence-20110228
Ditto.
Several rows of concertina wire and armed guards in watch towers every 300 meters did it for us in Vietnam.
San Diego's "citywide fence" as you can see, cuts through "desolate countryside".
That was the IRON CURTAIN ~ it used intimidation, kidnapping, hostage taking, murder........
They built fences with minefields to help them enforce it.
What we have with Mexico is a failure of the other country to do its part ~ and that is to keep their folks at home.
In the good old days when the country next door got out of hand and could no longer keep its agreements you'd get together with your other neighbors and go invade them, kill their nobles and their families, then install a new noble order and a royal family.
In this case the noble class in adjoining Mexico has talked our noble class into complicity with a never ending supply of low cost lawn boys and cheap tarts.
I'm afraid if our leaders and their leaders don't bring this to a halt pretty darned quick it will be resolved with a violent uprising of some sort ~ that most of us won't like but we'll have to put up with.
It's necessary that Rick Perry and Obama and the others figure out how to get the Mexicans to go home now.
Can you say "another NAU (North American Union) advocate"?
I knew ya could!
Check out this documentary video - Endgame (2007).mp4 by Alex Jones.
If you think Perry will come clean on this stuff, I think you're mistaken.
What is Romney’s position???
Now there’s a great question. Romney sunk his state in debt and destroyed its access to medical care, he believes in global warming and a thousand other RINO things but if he’s for a boondoggle fence to nowhere bring him on. The comments on this topic make me despair. Conservative cannot afford to be single issue voters. We need the best package even if there is a little holding the nose involved. Romney is Obama light, “I pretend to be a conservative but actually I’m a big Gov’t Liberal Spender.”
I am going out on a limb and assuming we destroyed the tunnel.
Have you never had a fly in your kitchen? Of course, you have. Despite closing the outside door and having screens on your windows, they still manage to sneak in. How many do you think you'd be swatting if you didn't have those window screens or hollered at the kids to shut the back door?
Not a real problem.
There are a couple of other places where you have to drive through Canada to get to the US. One of them is in Minnesota. The other is in Washington state.
Again, ain't no thang.
Texas is not unique. But if you don't want border fortifications in Texas we can put them in New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana.
Yeah, Perry put a stop to the Corridor just like he put a stop to Gardasil - AFTER we Texans rose up against it.
What planet do you live on?
You had to get permission to leave the country?
Are you a crook or felon or simply full of crap?
Passports are not permission slips and customs only comes in to play if you’re importing prohibitied items or items of value.
Unless you want to view a passport as a permission slip, in which case you already had open ended permission to leave as you pleased, the passport being used as a record of coming and going.
I can’t comment about your difficulties going to and from Mexico other than to speculate that maybe you look like a drug dealer or other criminal.
Before this goes on a tangent, I can concede that in an oblique way passport checks can be part of a permission to leave process in that they verify your ID and that one isn’t on the no fly list. Otherwise, it isn’t anything more than validating one’s ID and recording one’s coming and goings.
Unless one happens to look like a drug dealer or other scoundrel.
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