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Ron Paul or certified RINOs, whom would you prefer? (vanity)

Posted on 08/13/2011 1:26:27 PM PDT by JimWayne

After yesterday's spurt in talk radio about Ron Paul, I've been thinking about his positions. I oppose Ron Paul on Foreign Policy (especially his position ignoring the threat of Islam taking over our policy), but have to seriously wonder about supporting some of the other candidates who have not faced opposition.

Ron Paul gets a lot of flak, but why do the others get away with cheating us for doing far worse than what Ron Paul promises to do to Israel? Many candidates like Rick Santorum, George Allen and Joe Barton have hijacked the label of conservative, but are less conservative than even Ron Paul. They support raising debt to infinite levels, deficit funding, support for Islamic regimes like Pakistan, nationalized healthcare (they did not oppose Romneycare), have wishy-washy positions on abortion, and say one thing during the elections while ganging up with the liberals right after the elections.

The second thought in my mind is about Israel. Why are we so obsessed about Israel when the Jewish people seem to vote for the RATs? I think Islam is more dangerous and if we pull the aid from both Palestine and Israel, Israel will win, but this is a situation I don't really feel strongly about. There are much bigger problems at home and my wealth is depleting not merely due to Obama and other Dims, but the RINOs and neocons who have ganged up with the liberals over the years.

These RINOs do not support us but expect our support unconditionally. They even opposed the TEA Party candidates but suddenly claim that they themselves are part of the TEA Party.

So my question to you is why should we give a free pass to the RINOs? Shouldn't we hold them to the same standards we hold Ron Paul to? I can already hear that Ron Paul is a kook, but that is not the question. The question is whether others like Santorum and George Allen aren't worse than being a kook and why should we support them? The other question is why Israel is so important that my savings should be used for them. Shouldn't they take care of themselves?


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KEYWORDS: boobyhatch; kooks; liberaltarian; nuts; paul2012; rino; ronpaul; vanity
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1 posted on 08/13/2011 1:26:34 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne

Ron Paul = Certified RINO so what is the question. Heck I think if you asked Paul he might well say he is not a Republican.


2 posted on 08/13/2011 1:29:22 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: JimWayne

Paul isn’t a real Presidential candidate so this is a stupid question.


3 posted on 08/13/2011 1:30:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: JimWayne
Silly rabbit

If Ron Paul were the candidate, Obama is the next president and if another Mclame/McRommney is the candidate Obama is the next president.

4 posted on 08/13/2011 1:33:25 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: JLS

He tells his supporters that the only reason he has an R next to his name is because it’s easier to win that way. He’ll tell you to run with a D next to your name if you think that is more likely to lead to victory.

In a certain sense, I agree with this sentiment. I’m more loyal to conservatism than I am to the Republican Party. However, so long as I’m a Republican, I’ll be a loyal one.


5 posted on 08/13/2011 1:34:38 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: JimWayne
RON PAUL: THE Only Choice! 2008/2012


6 posted on 08/13/2011 1:34:56 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: JimWayne
Ron Paul is the cooky uncle you invite over to dinner because you have to and he can be amusing for about half an hour.

He is not going to win the Presidency.

I am starting to like the idea of Perry/Santorum.

7 posted on 08/13/2011 1:35:09 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: ansel12

I totally agree. This guy has as much chance of winning the Republican Nomination as Sarah Palin has to win the Democratic Nomination.


8 posted on 08/13/2011 1:35:11 PM PDT by kempster
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To: JimWayne

They are certifying them now?


9 posted on 08/13/2011 1:35:30 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: ansel12

No, the question is not about Paul. It is why others get a free pass and are not held to the same standard as Paul.

If you really oppose terrorism, you should oppose candidates who support Islamic regimes. If you really oppose baby-killing, you should oppose candidates who triangulate their position on baby-killing. And if you really oppose Global Warming, you should oppose those who subsidize ethanol. The question is why don’t I see this happen.

I do agree that Ron Paul has no chance of winning, but the same is true for Herman Cain.


10 posted on 08/13/2011 1:35:38 PM PDT by JimWayne
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I can already hear that Ron Paul is a kook, but that is not the question

Ron Paul is such a kook on things foreign policy and finding the "truth" about 9-11 that there really isn't any reason to take him particularly seriously on anything. The guy just disqualifies himself when he won't even distance himself from the Alex Jones, 9-11 truther conspiracy crowd.

11 posted on 08/13/2011 1:36:02 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: JimWayne

Ron Paul is a Libertarian running as a Republican. By definition that makes him a “Republican In Name Only”.


12 posted on 08/13/2011 1:36:09 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: JimWayne

bat poop crazy person that will get us all killed (paul)

or any other credible candidate? easy choice.


13 posted on 08/13/2011 1:37:35 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: JimWayne

Just in case anybody else has been wondering, the full moon was at 11:57 PDT (about 12:10 FRT) today.


14 posted on 08/13/2011 1:37:51 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Reaganez
I am starting to like the idea of Perry/Santorum.

Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann are the only good candidates. Perry and Santorum are RINOs. Perry got Texas into a deficit and Santorum supports ethanol subsidies and supported Arlen Specter. Santorum is a fraud and worse than Ron Paul.

15 posted on 08/13/2011 1:38:10 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne

Ron Paul would be my absolutely LAST choice among the Republican candidates. I would even vote for Huntsman, my next-to-last choice, over Paul. Paul would actually be dangerous to our nation’s security.


16 posted on 08/13/2011 1:38:39 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Conservative Republican who wants to win)
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To: Reaganez
Santorum doesn't believe in the 10th amendment... he spent the entire debate bashing local government.

He is the same guy who brought us No Child Left Behind.

Santorum hates homeschooling or anything that allows people more choice.

No thanks.
17 posted on 08/13/2011 1:38:39 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: JimWayne
The other question is why Israel is so important that my savings should be used for them. Shouldn't they take care of themselves

I often wonder why people obsess about the 2 billion we send to Israel (which is essentially just a subsidy to our weapons industry), but they're silent on the staggering amount of aid we provide to the rest of the world.

We spend between six and seven hundred billion dollars a year to keep China from invading their neighbors or cutting off sea lanes, Russia from rolling into Europe, North Korea from unleashing hell on Seoul, or Iran from blockading the Straits of Hormuz. That's not just for our benefit, that's for the benefit of the rest of the world.

We spend 50 billion a year on benefits and services to illegal aliens. How much do we spend on welfare or food stamps for people who are members of America's "leisure class"?

Yet people keep bringing up Israel... kinda makes you wonder what the obsession is...

18 posted on 08/13/2011 1:39:30 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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19 posted on 08/13/2011 1:40:24 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: DaveyB

Is that why head to head polls show Paul doing as well vs Obama heads up than any other candidate in the GOP field?


20 posted on 08/13/2011 1:40:53 PM PDT by rjeffries
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