Posted on 08/10/2011 3:44:31 PM PDT by tobyhill
Police departments in several cities around the country are investigating what appear to be incidents of "flash mob"-generated violence, in which packs of dozens or even hundreds of youths appear seemingly out of nowhere to commit assaults, robberies and other crimes against innocent bystanders.
The motive and circumstances surrounding the attacks that have resulted in numerous arrests around the country are being investigated -- and law enforcement officials in at least one city are looking into a possible racial component to the crimes.
Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, who recently imposed a stricter curfew in response to the city's latest attack, addressed black youths directly from the pulpit of his church on Sunday, reportedly saying, “You have damaged your own race.”
"If you want …anybody else to respect you and not be afraid when they see you walking down the street, then leave the innocent people who are walking down the street minding their own damn business. Leave them alone," Nutter told a mostly black congregation at Mount Carmel Baptist Church in West Philadelphia, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.
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People died for ALL THE WRONG REASONS! It was dirty, it was nasty. And then the thieves were allowed to raze land that didn’t belong to them, women and children was murdered so carpetbaggers could get their land. And insane general unleashed by a bunch of insane people willing to commit illegal acts upon a people!
And you are a sorry POS if you don’t understand that.
It certainly was not legal to try and destroy the Constitution of the greatest nation in the history of the world in order to preserve the inhuman and squalid slave trade, you are correct.
Nothing that led to the RAT Rebellion is being repeated or followed today. Anymore than what is happening today is similar to what was happening before the Peloponnesian Wars.
People did die for the wrong reason if they died defending the inhuman, ignoble and squalid slave system. They died as stupidly as did the Germans who died defending the Nazi murder state which also believed in a Master Race. That is the absolute WORST of things to die for.
Oh get lost bigoted old fool, you haven’t a freaking clue what you’re even talking about. You still think this was some grand noble delusion where the poor little north is all inoocent.
Get the freak LOST MAN!
I care nothing for the “North” particularly since I was born and raised in the South but I care deeply for the Union which created the greatest nation in the history of the world. A nation that (outside the Slaverocracy) was the FREEST in the world in 1860.
It was a shame that the Slavers brought ruin and disgrace onto my native region. A ruin so thorough that it took a century to recover from. Good job.
You still have this grand delusion of the slavers all being in the secessionist south. Are you crazy? What kindof nutjob education did you get? From liberal idiots?
What about Maryland, West Virginia, Missouri, Massachusetts (the slave trading state they also held native American slaves), Connecticut, Kentucky, Rhode Island, Delaware?? Hmmmm? What about those 500,000+ slaves? I guess they just didn’t need to be free. Nobody bothered to go to their states, raze their cities to the ground and steal property from the widows and orphans? Those slaveholders musta been bloody angels, right? Did you know there’s a slave burial ground in Manhattan where they found the remains of 20,000 African slaves? They just killed theirs and tossed them in one big hole and built over them.
And of course you hadn’t a clue that Texas didn’t even have slaves until the 1830s when northern immigrants brought them here, or that Texas was a haven for free blacks. They were also allowed to own property. And you didn’t know there were blacks in the northern states that owned and traded slaves, did ya?
Nor did you know that the many blacks in the south petitioned to join the Confederate army and did. Because they considered the south as their homeland. Many of them knew Abrham Lincoln was a racist and was using blacks as an excuse for his war. By the 1860’s the many slaves in the south were literate as they were allowed to have their own schools, raise produce to sell, and manage their own money.
If Abrham Lincoln has kept his ass out of South Carolina there probably wouldn’t have been a war. Had he had a freaking clue about diplomacy and negotiation he could’ve reunited the states without killing off 800,000 people to do so.
Only one in SEVEN THOUSAND people in the south were slave holders. Yet you think it was all about slavery. It wasn’t. It was about economics, government over reach and tyranny. AND what you especially don’t know is that the tarrif and economic issues was also getting HOT HOT HOT in the north and that northerneres were just as sick of Abraham Lincoln’s tarffs as the south was. The slavery issue was a distraction.
Maybe you need to go back and read up some more, Sir. Enlightenment is grand thang.
The criminal Harriet Tubman was the precedent for the above the law President and the attorney general
Falsehoods and deceit are all you have. I never claimed the North fought the war to destroy slavery and neither did Lincoln. But the SOUTH fought the war ENTIRELY to defend slavery AND ITS LEADERS UNIVERSALLY SAID SO. Why do you ignore this FACT?
Since the Border States did not attack the Union or declare War upon it, Lincoln left slavery alone in them as he would have the South. But NOOOO that wasn't good enough for the Slavers. THEY wanted secession and had been working for that for a decade. Lincoln had not even taken office when the revolting idiots in S. Carolina revolted.
You keep getting confused about what was true in 1770 but false in 1860. Slavery was throughout the nation in 1770 but had been banned in the North by 1860 as had the slave trade from Africa. One of the earlier facts I whacked your stupid claims with pointed out that Naval forces of the United States of America patrolled the Atlantic Ocean to stop the slave-traders. You ignored this FACT just as you ignored the FACT that slavery was banned in every Northern state. Then you repeat the same stupid crap. Adding even more stupid crap with the idea Indians were enslaved at the time of the RAT Rebellion.
Fort Sumter was federal property that had been DEEDED to the United States of America by the state of South Carolina decades before the Civil War. Only idiots would attack federal property and think they could get away with it. These idiots did not know the measure of man they were going up against but soon found out much to their dismay.
There was NO TYRANNY in 1860 outside the plantations of the Slavers. America was the freest nation in history (for white men). The fact that slavery would not be allowed to expand to new states is hardly tyranny but the resistance to the growth of tyranny. Having defenders of the Slavers talk about tyranny is hilarious stuff, what next Nazis talking about tolerance? LoL.
Sorry but all of your post is completely delusional. There were 500,000 slaves in the north not freed by the grand Emancipation Proclamation. Nor did the South declare war. The south peacefully seceded as is perfectly allowable under the US Constitution. In fact the founders said it is your duty to do so.
The Cabots of Massachusetts continued the slave and opium shipping trade until way after the Civil War! Never lost a ship to all those Navy vessels you were claiming paraded around the coasts.
When the south seceded, the federal deed to Ft. Sumpter or any property within that state or the whole south was null and void. In fact the whole federal government was null and void. In case you didn’t notice the south formed its own SOVEREIGN government.
Man you are just incredibly WRONG!
Ky, is not “North”, Maryland is not “North”, Missouri is not “North”, DE is not really “North”. Where are the 500,000 slaves? All those states stayed in the Union but they were not “North”. Lincoln did not free them because he was fighting the war to preserve the Union not free the slaves. Only the Slavers were fighting to preserve slavery as they repeated said. And you KNOW they said this.
No northerners sold or shipped slaves after it was banned. Opium was not illegal either so that is another irrelevancy which you love so well.
There is no legal means of secession except through an amendment, there was no amendment. As Madison once told Hamilton - once in the Union always in the Union. And the Constitution was set up so that NO state could change it unilaterally.
There was no true sovereignty for the South - it barely lasted four years, some sovereignty. It was merely an insurrection which the Constitution specifically empowers the federal government to put down.
I realize you have no concern about law but your Sumter argument is ridiculous in the extreme. But that is what you have to resort to attempting to defend the Slavers’ treason.
Why is it that failure to exceed general populace demographics by employing a higher percentage of minorities is de facto racial discrimination, but flash mobs who are composed of 90+ percent individuals from one specific racial group only “raise the possibility of racism”?
Still delusional lying.
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” - Declaration of Independence, JULY 4, 1776
So, did your delusional liberal union teacher not teach about the Three Charters of Freedom that make up the US Constitution? The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights? KNock! Knock!
If those states chose to not secede, then they remained a part of the Union, wouldn’t you say? And their soldiers certainly fought against the Confederacy, illegally, I might remind you. Those states held over 500,000 slaves at the time of the revolution. Like I said, nobody decided that they needed to be free, now did they?
Yeah, too bad for you, the Cabots of Massachusetts kept selling slaves long after the war was over to Brazil and Cuba. You can deny, but you cannot replace the pesky facts. In fact, Massachusetts and Rhode Island were the chief slavers in the country, and long after the civil war kept their slave trading businesses while the US Navy turned a blind eye. The only Navy on the planet blocking the slave trade ports was G. Britian.
And too bad for you that the south seceded peacefully and formed their own government as described by our founders in the Declaration of Independence which is part of our Constitution...except the south seceded peacefully from the Union and the states raised armies against King George, lol
Those pesky facts, just keep tripping you up, don’t they?
“...a long train of abuses and usurpations...” The Slavers were not abused in any way by the feds. It had been their faithful creature assisting them in the abuse of slaves. And the only “usurpation” was that attempted by the Slavers attacking the Union.
Why do you keep yammering on about the slaves of the middle states when everyone knows Lincoln did not fight the war to free the slaves but to preserve the Union? The War was about slavery ONLY to the South.
Brazil ended the foreign slave trade in 1850 so the Cabots were not exporting slaves from Africa to Brazil. Stop lying.
The Declaration of Independence is NOT “part of the Constitution”.
Nor did the Continental Army get raised by the states.
Mainly because YOU are contradicting yourself. First you say the south only seceded because they were slavers, completely discounting the economic tragedy that the north had become with the majority of companies going bankrupt because of high labor costs, of course except the slave traders in Massachusetts and Rhode Island, joblessness, classwarfare, and then race baiting against the south (just like they and YOU are doing today).
Then you deny the economic upheaval the government was creating in the south and north with their raised tariffs trying to force people to buy the manufactured products from the north. Then you try to deny the government’s part in the death of the central bank from which the country never recovered until it happened again. Then you try to deny that the government and the whacko’s in the north weren’t trying to crater the south’s economics by forcing the end of slavery, instead of letting the people end it themselves. You haven’t a clue of the works of Jefferson Davis, General Lee, and the many like Benton of Alabama that were already attempting to phase out slavery. Then you try to deny that there weren’t 500,000 slaves still in the union that weren’t part of the grand Emancipation Proclamation Lincoln cooked up in THE THIRD YEAR OF THE ECONOMIC WAR HE STARTED. I’ll bet you discount the fact that Lincoln’s government was broke because he was not getting the high tariffs from the southern ports and pretend that the only thing on Lincoln’s mind was to preserve the UNION!!!!
And of course you’re flat out lying that Cabots didn’t continue to run slave ships way after the Civil War when it’s a well known fact that they did. In fact it was the Cabot’s slave ships Lincoln tried to use to ship the freed slaves out of the country to first Liberia. And when that didn’t work to the Chichera coal mines in Central America which almost started another war. And I’ll bet if the old fool hadn’t got himself whacked off by a bunch of nixxed off Americans he would’ve have carried out his grand Colonization of the vast majority of slaves off the soil of the United States because he was a racist like most everybody else in the north. Ever ask yourself why the majority of freed men never moved north? The North didn’t need slaves, they had already begun to slave children in their manufacturing plants and continued to do so until 1920.
And of course now you’re claiming that our Declaration of Independence is not part of our Constitution because your liberal teacher taught you that. And you’re trying to pretend that the states didn’t create a violent revolution against the British.
Then there’s your grand denial that the government hadn’t committed a long train of abuses and usurpations, which they most certainly did or else WHY would they have seceded? At that time nullification was used by every state in the union. In fact as early 1832 the federal government sent warships to South Carolina to try to stop their nullification of the federal governments high tariffs. And you’ll deny that some of the New England states had rebelled against federal government mandates, includuing against the federalization of the state militia in the war of 1812. The federal government, in fact, BY FORCE continued romping and stomping over the states’ rights with central government supremacy which Jefferson and Madison both fought against throughout their lives, even after the Constitution was written and ratified. So don’t try to bull shite me that the government did not continue to try to usurp the rights of the people and the states, even until today! As I said the events leading up to the civil war are running lock step with what’s been happening in this country again for the last 50 years.
Denial and lying is the product of a liberal mind that has not the ability to look at logic and facts or reality and live in a state of delusion because they want to claim some sense of noble intentions when there are none.
“Mainly because YOU are contradicting yourself. First you say the south only seceded because they were slavers, completely discounting the economic tragedy that the north had become with the majority of companies going bankrupt because of high labor costs, of course except the slave traders in Massachusetts and Rhode Island, joblessness, classwarfare, and then race baiting against the south (just like they and YOU are doing today).” There isn’t a word of truth in this mishmash of nonsense.
“...their raised tariffs...” I showed you that tariffs had been declining since 1828.
You refuse to stop lying about what I have claimed and just make up new lies when the old ones are blown apart. Naturally, I never denied there were slaves in the Union’s Border States and here you blatantly lie and say I refuse to admit it. Hardly.
Nor were the feds trying to do anything about Slavery just the slave trade from Africa. You lie again and just make up crap.
Brazil ended the slave trade from Africa in 1850 so the Cabots were not trading slaves there as per another LIE of yours.
Lincoln never tried to ship any freed slaves to Africa much less use the Cabot’s ships. Another LIE made up out of whole clothe.
Blacks continually moved north after the war and moved back south as well. The big Northern cities had sizable black populations after the war. But most blacks only knew agriculture so they stayed in the South then there was the sharecropper system which kept them poor and under the thumb of their former owners. It was like a police state for the Freedmen.
There you go with that hysterical fantasy about the fedgov being a tyranny in 1860 when it was tiny and very weak with an almost non-existent army. It tyrannized NOT at all since it was too weak to do such a thing. There was a tyranny over the slaves and poor whites in the South but it was strictly the Slaver Power, the Aristocracy which controlled Southern politics.
When you post total lies, what do you expect? Somebody to just roll over and play dead?
It ain’t happening.
NO, you didn’t show me anything about tariffs because I know South Carolina was still fighting the tariffs in 1832 and the many other states beyond.
YES< you did. YOU said there was NO slaves in the Union and that they had been outlawed.
And YES, the feds had been taking actions against the slave states for YEARS!
Brazil did NOT end slavery in 1850, they ended in 1888 the many years after the Civil War, during which time the Cabots were STILL delivering them African slaves! Just as they were still delivering them to Cuba.
YES, it was Lincoln’s plan to colonize the freed slaves, first in Liberia and then in the Chichera coal mines in Central America. Those are FACTS, Sir, no matter how much you try to LIE about it.
North only had the slaves that WANTED to move north to escape. The majority of the freed men stayed in the south. It was their home.
So according to you the weak little Unionized north couldn’t even get up an army, nor did it try to tyrannize the southern states who seceded just for the hell of it.
Good going, nice delusions and lies, but sorry no banana.
“When you post total lies, what do you expect? Somebody to just roll over and play dead?” A dead man would make more sense than you have. And they make up fewer lies.
Tariff rates declined consistently after 1828 and had no bearing upon the Slavers decision to revolt.
“YOU said there was NO slaves in the Union and that they had been outlawed.” This is a LIE, I never said any such thing. I said slavery had been banned in the NORTHERN states decades before the war.
“And YES, the feds had been taking actions against the slave states for YEARS!” Such as WHAT? Returning their runaway slaves?
Lincoln considered the colonization of freed slaves but DID NOTHING TO IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN. You LIE when you claim otherwise.
No, the Slavers revolted because they feared Lincoln and knew he would prevent any expansion of their tyranny. He did NOTHING to justify the Slavers attempting to destroy the greatest nation in the history of the world (even with the moral millstone of slavery around its neck.)
A dead man is attempting to make sense...but you can’t quite pull it off, now can ya. Tariffs did not go down, they went up, consistently.
You said there were NO slaves in the Union.
Such as what? Trying to force them to buy manufactured goods from the north by raising tariffs...for one...race-baiting and class warfare for another...I’d say blockading South Carolina’s coast with war ships because they refused to enforce their high tariffs was just a little forceful and tyrannical.
Lincoln was planning the Colonization of the slaves the very day he got himself blased off the face of the planet.
The southern states didn’t destroy it. The federal government did with their tyranny. All the southern states did was say, NO THANKS!
“You said there were NO slaves in the Union.” Stop LYING.
“I’d say blockading South Carolina’s coast with war ships because they refused to enforce their high tariffs was just a little forceful and tyrannical.” LoL. There was no blockade until South Carolina fired on US Military installations. The biggest blockade is the one preventing your mind from recognizing the truth.
“Lincoln was planning the Colonization of the slaves the very day he got himself blased off the face of the planet.” Where did you get this piece of lunacy?
Back on your ludicrous Federal Tyranny Horse? What a screwball. Slavers were concerned about KEEPING Tyranny not FIGHTING it. They loved nothing MORE than the tyranny of the Whip and Lash. That is ALL they lived for.
Toots noor...sounds to me like you’re trying to convince yourself of your own lies. Cuz you’re certainly not convincing me or anybody else.
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