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Is Door Closed on Palin? (NO!)
Commentary Magazine ^ | 8-10-2011 | Seth Mandel - OP/ED

Posted on 08/10/2011 11:07:32 AM PDT by smoothsailing

Is Door Closed on Palin?

Seth Mandel

August 10, 2011

In April, Human Events published a column offering ten reasons Sarah Palin will run for president. Last month, Fox News host Greta Van Susteren blogged about the seven reasons Palin will run for president. Then last week, Henry D’Andrea, writing in the Washington Times, offered three reasons he believes Palin will run for president.

Though I’ve been skeptical all along that Palin would run, I would imagine the entrance of Rick Perry into the race will give Palin one very good reason not to. Perry’s candidacy has, as many others have pointed out, put several of the Republican campaigns on life support. As I wrote last week, the latest Gallup poll numbers show once Perry is included, Republican primary voters show substantially less interest in candidates outside the field. There may still be calls for Paul Ryan or Chris Christie to get in the race, but Perry has quieted the clamoring for “someone else.” But the numbers also show why he easily replaces Palin.

Perry has two impressive numbers in the Gallup polling: his overall placement (second, right behind Mitt Romney) and his “positive intensity score.” Gallup defines this as “the difference between strongly favorable and strongly unfavorable opinions among those who are familiar with him or her. This score provides an indication of the intensity of support among a candidate’s base of followers at any given point in the campaign.”

In the most recent Gallup polling, Perry’s positive intensity score is at 23, five points higher than Palin’s 18. The full poll, however, shows when Perry and Palin are in the race together, Perry polls at 15 percent to Palin’s 12. (The poll includes Rudy Giuliani as well.) Additionally, Perry has the kind of grassroots support, popularity with conservative new media and solid reputation among conservative evangelical voters from which Palin would build a campaign.

For Palin to run, she would need to focus her firepower on a moderate establishment candidate, like Romney. But Perry may well begin his official campaign as either the frontrunner or close to it. A Palin candidacy would seem unnecessary to primary voters once Perry is in the race. I’m sure speculation will continue, but Perry seems to have closed the door on a Palin candidacy this year.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cultofpalin; iampalinhearmeroar; notrunning; palin; palin2012; perry; rickperry; rinoperry; sarahpalin
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To: RINOs suck

You think Bachmann has a chance once Perry and Palin enter the race.

How quaint. And deluded.

She doesnt have a chance WITHOUT them in the race, and she’ll get no money to run with them in.


101 posted on 08/10/2011 4:24:34 PM PDT by kevkrom (This space for rent.)
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To: faucetman
Palin/West 2012 No substitutes

If she gets in, that would be the ideal dream ticket, a prayers answered kind of ticket.

I'd happily break my budget to donate the maximum allowed by law to those two great Americans.

I've been depressed and somewhat fearful of what our future might be, but not with that team in charge. They would be real hope and change, just what the Republic needs.

Not to be racial, but who can't see that obama is a phony? West, on the other hand, is the real deal.

If young men and women need role models, especially young black men and women, that's the team to have in charge, with a President West taking over after President Palin.

I hope and pray your prediction comes true!

102 posted on 08/10/2011 4:53:09 PM PDT by GBA
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; smoothsailing
If we end up with Romney because Perry, Palin, and Bachmann cancel each other out, then shame on them. If they can’t get together in a room and agree to push just one candidacy, then they are part of the problem.

I'm hoping Palin doesn't get in. I like her, but I don't believe she can win. In the end it's up to us to get behind 1 candidate. At this point for me it's a toss up between Bachmann and Perry with me leaning for Bachmann.

...I will not vote for Romney or any other pro-abortion candidate.

I agree. I have friends that are fiscal conservatives and they just don't understand this stand.

103 posted on 08/10/2011 5:21:06 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
I agree. I have friends that are fiscal conservatives and they just don't understand this stand.

If the state can arbitrarily take life, then the money the fiscals think they own, they don't. If they can abuse the premier right, then the right to ownership isn't going to give them even a brief thought.

104 posted on 08/10/2011 5:45:52 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; wmfights
If we end up with Romney because Perry, Palin, and Bachmann cancel each other out, then shame on them. If they can’t get together in a room and agree to push just one candidacy, then they are part of the problem.

I don't see them canceling each other out at all, I think the strongest among them would emerge rather quickly, marginalizing Romney in the process.

I guarantee you that I will not vote for Romney or any other pro-abortion candidate. The Constitution Party candidate will get my vote.

I understand this, Chappy, and I'll never vote for a pro-abort. But I would rather not vote than waste my time voting third party, each would accomplish nothing, but the former would take no effort. :)

105 posted on 08/10/2011 6:05:27 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: kevkrom
You think Bachmann has a chance once Perry and Palin enter the race.

Of course, given her level of evangelical support in Iowa. She is following the Huckabee path to victory.

You're, apparently, clueless about Iowa Republicans. Pat Robertson once finished a close second in Iowa.

Reality is going to bite you in the behind very hard.

106 posted on 08/10/2011 6:45:53 PM PDT by RINOs suck
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To: RINOs suck

Huckabee lost.

Iowa means nothing but presstitute fodder


107 posted on 08/10/2011 6:48:07 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: smoothsailing

The danger that Perry represents to the future of America is the very best reason for Palin to run, and win.


108 posted on 08/10/2011 7:06:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Blackandproud

Perry is clearly no conservative, and will have little effect on conservative voting patterns.

Perry is competition for Romney and the other RINOs and jokes in the field.


109 posted on 08/10/2011 7:09:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Grunthor

Palin is the vote.

All the others are splits, injected solely to attempt to weaken the real candidate.


110 posted on 08/10/2011 7:12:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Blackandproud

If you were even within 10% of being right, the mediots and GOP elite wouldn’t be wasting their time and money fighting Palin.

There is more money being spent to undermine Palin than is being spent on all the rest of the campaign combined.


111 posted on 08/10/2011 7:16:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: RINOs suck

What causes you noobs to jump in with childish assertions with no evidence to back up you raving?

If you wish to support weak and muddled candidates like Perry or Bachmann, go to the sites that support them (yea, tough to find them)


112 posted on 08/10/2011 7:22:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: smoothsailing

>> “Perry has been fighting the EPA in Texas for some time now. It’s no secret that he would like to dismantle that insane bunch of eco-freaks.” <<

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That is nonsense. Perry is a Global Warming surrender monkey.


113 posted on 08/10/2011 7:24:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: 9YearLurker; RINOs suck

>> “The proven economic conservative is Gov. Palin.” <<

Quite obviously.

The RINOsucker is just noise on the threads, and that is why he was sent here. Notice tha signup date is the same month that the Mediots tried to create Bachmann.


114 posted on 08/10/2011 7:30:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: editor-surveyor
'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.'

Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
16th president of US (1809 - 1865)

115 posted on 08/10/2011 7:37:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

You broke that admonition when you posted the thread.


116 posted on 08/10/2011 7:55:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: editor-surveyor

If it wasn’t for your delusions, you’d have no thoughts at all.


117 posted on 08/10/2011 8:00:40 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: editor-surveyor
Perry is a Global Warming surrender monkey.

Jeez! I've lived in Texas since 1993...and never even suspected Perry might be such.

However did I miss out on such a revelation?

And how much credibility should I give to an unsupported assertion?

118 posted on 08/10/2011 8:08:58 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: smoothsailing
She's not running.

The Palinite crowd on FR will be on suicide watch once they accept it, but on the bright side I think Governor Goodhair has the strongest chance out of any of the current or potential candidates to take down Ozero.

119 posted on 08/10/2011 10:02:19 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: el_texicano
Perry ahead of Palin? and who campaigned for Perry and made the big difference so that Perry won? Palin

Not really. Perry was comfortably ahead and won by double digits. He's got plenty of explaining to do on some RINO moves, but he'll poll higher than she in the primary should they both run.

120 posted on 08/10/2011 10:09:06 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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