16,000 police to retake London: PM recalls Parliament as the police lose control of Britain's street

Daily Mail (London) ^

[quesney]

16,000 police to retake London: PM recalls Parliament as the police lose control of Britain's streets

--Prime Minister David Cameron recalls Parliament on Thursday as Government tries to quell uprising

--'Unprecedented' 16,000 police on duty in London - compared with just 6,000 last night

--Man, 26, shot in Croydon last night dies in hospital England game against Netherlands at Wembley tomorrow called OFF

--400% surge in 999 calls on night of violence with 20,800 dialling the emergency services in London

--Cost of clean-up expected to run into 'tens of millions'

--Metropolitan Police use armoured vehicles to push back 150 rioters in Lavender Hill, Clapham

--'There are no plans for the Army to get involved,' says police chief

--Three arrested on suspicion of attempted murder of police officer

--525 people arrested in total and more than 100 people have been charged

--Jamie Oliver's restaurant in Birmingham ransacked by rioters

--All police cells in London are now FULL

--Man seriously ill after being shot in Croydon

--Copycat riots reported in Birmingham, Bristol, Nottingham, Liverpool and Leeds

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/LONDON-RIOTS-David-Cameron-returns-home-police-face-gangs-petrol-bombs.html#ixzz1UXI1VrCk

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

BNP or UKIP.

Lib/Lab/Con is a trifecta of fraud.

I’d like to see Nigel Farage as PM.

[Windflier]

The natural ideological splits are defined by location, race, and to some lesser extent, money (excluding the very wealthy). In other words, we are already largely separated; the marxist/fascist/statist/dependents largely live in densely populated cities, while the free men and women are in more rural areas.

That's a very simplistic way to look at it, and it's entirely untrue. Go to almost any middle class area of the country, and you'll find Republicans and Democrats, right-wingers and left wingers living in the same communities, and on the same streets together.

If you think that everyone who lives in a major urban city is a Democrat, you need to think again. Republicans may be outnumbered in those areas, and Democrats outnumbered in the exurbs and rural areas, but the mix exists all across the country.

What I'm trying to communicate, is that we can't be practically separated, geographically. It would be laughable to even try.

The point I made before, is that there's no easy way out of this. We can't simply say, "fine, you all just take those dozen states over there, and stay out of our side of the country."

No - we on the right (and those who came before us) allowed the left to do the damage they've done. It now falls to us to undo that damage through sheer determination and hard work.

Besides, I'm not in agreement with ceding a single square inch of my beloved America to the vermin on the left.

[Windflier]

"The way out is through."

It's the only way out, and it will be rough. Exactly how rough we don't know, but it may be a lot rougher than we expect and certainly hope.

There's no doubt that we've got a long tough road ahead to restore this nation. We have to take back the command and control levers in the society from the left. That will be no mean feat, but it's what we have to do, if we're going to begin raising new generations of Americans who love and revere this nation and its Founding Ideals.

We didn't get into this state of dishevelment in just a few years, and we won't get out in only a few, either. I'm already preparing my children to carry on this battle in their adulthoods.

They need to know what it is their parents are fighting for, and that they will have to pick up the mantle soon, themselves.

[little jeremiah]

Have you read Matthew Bracken’s/Travis McGee’s books?

I think they’re sort of starting in real life now.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Parents from Glasgow : )

[stephenjohnbanker]

” British people havent been ‘subjects’ for many years now.

And no it dosent suck, because 99.99% of the UK isnt alight or under attack. Britain will survive this, its survived much worse.”

Well, shiite....OK!!

: _

[ecomcon]

If you think that everyone who lives in a major urban city is a Democrat, you need to think again.

Nobody thinks that, and I was careful to say "largely". Straw man arguments bore me.

If we can't separate ourselves, two choices remain. Join the hive or civil war, and winner take all, which is separation by force.

What I'm trying to communicate, is that we can't be practically separated, geographically. It would be laughable to even try.

Who says? You? People say it's impossible to deport illegal aliens, too, yet Mexico deported 40 million of its people without even asking them to leave. Arizona caused illegals to begin emigrating out of their state with the passage of one common sense law. People are separating themselves all the time. Right now, people are emigrating from my state of California to other more sensible states all by themselves.

No - we on the right (and those who came before us) allowed the left to do the damage they've done. It now falls to us to undo that damage through sheer determination and hard work.

Besides, I'm not in agreement with ceding a single square inch of my beloved America to the vermin on the left.

So the same Americans who have voted for more government for the past 100 years are going to be made to see the light and renounce their free stuff because "we on the right" (who apparently are at the same time complicit in "allowing" the left) are going to change their world view through sheer determination and hard work?

People don't change unless they have to, and the money hasn't run out yet.

[Windflier]

Alright. You win. Draw a line down the middle of the country and call one side red, and the other blue.

Just hope your house is sitting on the right side of the line when they mark it.

[triumphant values]

It's actually an important distinction in Britain. Immigrants coming directly from Africa differ in every conceivable way from those from the Caribbean.

Really? Because I see just as much of a pattern in the British papers about their Gambian, Congolese, Ivory Coast, etc. crime horror stories and welfare abuse as I do for their Jamaican and Haitian immigrants.

If you regularly peruse the Daily Mail and the Telegraph you know what I'm talking about.

[Winniesboy]

Not only do I read the papers you mention, I also happen to have lived here all my life. Your rather sketchy grasp of the ethnic makeup of British immigrants is illustrated by your mention of Haitians and Congolese - of which there are hardly any in this country.

[sargon]

First point, British police haven’t been disarmed - they were never armed in the first place and constantly vote against being armed.

Disarmed or never armed, the result is the same. Same for other British subjects. They have lost control, and are at a great disadvantage when endeavoring to effectively defend their lives or property. That's the perception on this side of the pond, and it's not particularly dependent on whose media one is watching.

I'm sure order will be restored soon, hopefully before the entire country has been robbed and looted.

In any event, I'm proud of the citizens who are taking to the streets in their own defense, whether armed with their bare fists, pointy sticks, or what have you.

If only a couple of the worst offenders were properly shot (with all appropriate due process and justification, of course) methinks this little exercise by the thugs and looters would quickly peter out.

[triumphant values]

Not only do I read the papers you mention, I also happen to have lived here all my life. Your rather sketchy grasp of the ethnic makeup of British immigrants is illustrated by your mention of Haitians and Congolese - of which there are hardly any in this country.

So you're saying I didn't read a story about a Congolese protest in Newham, objecting to the rejection of asylum for Congolese "refugees", their argument being it should be granted because the UK had "travel advisories" for the Congo?

This protest that I didn't read about wasn't organized, by not one, not two, but three Congolese advocacy groups based in Britain.

The very fact that I supposedly didn't read of this (and there are other instances too), while you say there are so few of them only underlines my point.

Proportionality is the word I believe.

[triumphant values]

Also, instead of arguing with me about the attributes of which African sub-group you prefer is imported, you ought to be arguing with your MP to stop them all, before you get driven right off your own island.

[Winniesboy]

Proportionality is indeed the word. Immigrant numbers from Francophone countries such as the Congo and Haiti are tiny here because, not unnaturally, Francophone immigrants coming to Europe tend to gravitate to France. The great majority of immigrants here derive from former British colonies. The distinctions which you so cavalierly dismiss are important simply because (just as in the U.S.) there are many groups which have become well integrated and valuable contributors to the economy and society at large; while others have not.