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S&P to the US: Your credit is no good [White House was prepared for, and expecting, a downgrade]
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| Friday, Aug 5, 2011 21:45 ET
| By Andrew Leonard
Posted on 08/05/2011 7:38:21 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
Why the Tea Party-friendly Republicans of the U.S. House own this epic humiliation
On Friday night, after a swirl of rumors and conflicting news reports that will be grist for the Washington pundit mill for years to come, Standards & Poor downgraded the credit rating of the United States.
(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bipartisan; ceiling; creditrating; debt; default; downgrade; sandp; sp; teaparty
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A "scared" lib said to me---we were told it wouldnt happen if we supported Obama on this..the market was a shock then this [sucked in again].. When will they learn?
To: fight_truth_decay
lol!
arab spring caused our economic problems.
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:39:32 PM PDT
by
ken21
(ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
To: fight_truth_decay
Yeah, but just think of how many points the Dow would have dropped and much further our credit rating would have dropped if we wouldn't have done this and passed Cut,Cap and Balance instead /sarc
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:40:43 PM PDT
by
normy
(Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
To: ken21
I'd like to think that explains him going Greyhound......
I can wish
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:41:27 PM PDT
by
blackdog
(The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
To: fight_truth_decay
It's also worth noting that two of the other big three rating agencies did not downgrade the U.S.'s credit rating...YET!
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:42:34 PM PDT
by
Road Warrior ‘04
(I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
To: normy
S&P is a private company. Their office in Italy was just raided by the police. They can’t afford to PO the administration who can call in the IRS, SEC, FBI, etc. They had to downgrade to protect their reputation,but the downgrade is most of all because the of the size of the debt and it’s growth rate.
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:44:10 PM PDT
by
Oldexpat
To: fight_truth_decay
Obama has fundamentally transformed our economy as he warned
he would do.
Let your elected officials know exactly how you feel about their job ratings, loud and clear.
CUT, CAP AND BALANCE THE DAMN BUDGET.
FAST TRACK THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT NOW!!!
Reverse ObamaCare, NOW!
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:46:55 PM PDT
by
Enough is ENOUGH
(Fabian Globalism: Environmentalism halts production, forces population into dense controllable areas)
To: ken21
And George Bush caused Arab Spring. So we are back to square one. George Bush ate my homework.
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:47:20 PM PDT
by
chuckee
To: fight_truth_decay
Hey Bonehead, Tea Party tried to tell you and you just wouldn’t listen.
To: fight_truth_decay
Foolish article, foolish comments. The author, and the first half-dozen commenters, buy the story that Obama was prepared to actually make a meaningful "grand bargain" and that the GOP scotched it.
What a bunch of horsehockey. Obama had two goals--borrowing authority large enough to get him through the campaign, and no meaningful cuts in the size of government. He got those.
Yes, he would have liked bigger and more obvious tax raises to build the platform for deficit spending at an even higher level, but that was a secondary consideration. There was no intention of a "grand bargain."
To: Oldexpat
S&P is peanuts compared to the size of the US government. They'are nothing but a magazine publisher that's over-extended into specialty titles and heavy mailings.
They are cross-subsidized by the other classes of mail. Charged full rates S&P would be out of business tomorrow.
The market for US Securities is very sophisticated. They buy our stuff for several reasons ~
(1) There's nowhere else to park their money due to a continuing and worsening Great Obama Recession.
(2) We pay off. That's because we have this incredibly large military force so we are in no real danger of being overrun by the screaming hordes of Luxemburg.
(3) All the other government paper on the market can't say that no matter what their bond rating services say.
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:52:35 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: fight_truth_decay
CNN is trying to convince everyone that:
1) It’s not that bad
2) It’s the republicans’ fault
3) S&P doesn’t know what they’re talking about
They say S&P rated companies AAA that went under the next day. Yet they want to condemn S&P for cutting the U.S. rating.
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:52:56 PM PDT
by
Terry Mross
(I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
To: fight_truth_decay
"Democrats have only been able to agree to relatively modest savings on discretionary spending while delegating
to the Select Committee decisions on more comprehensive measures." Standard & Poor's
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:53:28 PM PDT
by
NoLibZone
(Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
To: fight_truth_decay
We also believe that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration agreed to this week falls short of the amount that we believe
is necessary to stabilize the general government debt burden by the middle of the decade. Standard & Poor's
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:53:53 PM PDT
by
NoLibZone
(Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
To: fight_truth_decay
The libs are now trying to blame the Tea Party for something Obama signed.
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:54:01 PM PDT
by
matt04
To: fight_truth_decay
"..., as we see it, the resulting agreement fell well short of the comprehensive fiscal consolidation program that some proponents had envisaged until quite recently." Standard & Poor's
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:54:12 PM PDT
by
NoLibZone
(Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
To: All
One woman said it’s okay for S&P to tell us to raise revenue. Did S&P even say that?
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:55:50 PM PDT
by
Terry Mross
(I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
To: fight_truth_decay
Read the S&P report and you think it was written by a Tea Party member. That’s why the the establishment hates us. They know we know we right (pun intended).
To: fight_truth_decay
"Our lowering of the rating was prompted by our view on the rising public debt burden and our perception of greater policymaking uncertainty,..." Standard & Poor's
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posted on
08/05/2011 7:56:46 PM PDT
by
NoLibZone
(Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
To: Bushbacker1
"The regulatory agencies responded saying there would be no change for risk-based capital purposes for financial institutions." Bank Failure #63: Bank of Whitman, Colfax, Washington
Bank Failure #62: Illinois ,,,, and the sixth in Illinois...this year...
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/
Earlier: Misc: S&P Plans U.S. Downgrade, makes math error, ECB to Buy Italian Bonds
A few stories ...
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