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Air Force Suspends Christian-Themed Ethics Training Program Over Bible Passages..
Fox News ^ | August 3rd, 2011

Posted on 08/03/2011 12:10:50 PM PDT by TaraP

The Air Force has suspended a course that was taught by chaplains for more than 20 years because the material included Bible passages.

The course, called “Christian Just War Theory” was taught by chaplains at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., and used Scripture from both the Old and New Testaments to show missile launch officers that it can be moral to go to war.

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KEYWORDS: airforce; christian; christianethics; christianity; justwars; moralabsolutes
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1 posted on 08/03/2011 12:10:52 PM PDT by TaraP
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But the watchdog group, Military Religious Freedom Foundation, said the course violated the constitutional separation of church and state and filed a complaint last Wednesday on behalf of 31 missile launch officers – both instructors and students.

And people are shocked why are country is in the sewer.....


2 posted on 08/03/2011 12:13:40 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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I was stationed at Vandenberg back in ‘75-’76.

I would venture to say that most chaplains are Christians. How else could they teach about just war without using Bible passages?

This is totally nuts!


3 posted on 08/03/2011 12:16:10 PM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: TaraP
It is the duty of nations, as well as of men, to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God and to recognize the sublime truth announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.
—Abraham Lincoln, referencing Psalm 33:12.
4 posted on 08/03/2011 12:19:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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They can preach Wicca, Islam and Homosexuality though


5 posted on 08/03/2011 12:20:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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Yep...

The Spirit of the Antichrist has blanketed this world...


6 posted on 08/03/2011 12:21:51 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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HMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ya’d thunk “God is a man of war” would be big in a war related business

Exodus 15:3


7 posted on 08/03/2011 12:26:07 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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I get so sick of hearing this:

CONSTITUTIONAL separation of church

I’ve looked and looked at the constitution and I can’t find that anywhere.


8 posted on 08/03/2011 12:29:56 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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I can see trying to teach just war theory without using Bible passages, providing one avoids discussing the historical development of the doctrine. How one would teach “Christian Just War Theory” without referring to the Bible I have no idea—and I’m a Catholic theologian. Sure, there are many Christian documents out there on the subject, but they all quote the Bible. If you don’t want the Bible, don’t take the class—though given the number of Christians in the U.S. military, it would seem a very useful class not only for Christians but also for anyone in a leadership position.


9 posted on 08/03/2011 12:30:10 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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Passages from the Holy Queeran would be perfectly acceptable, however.

Allahu Akbar, Dhimmis!

10 posted on 08/03/2011 12:34:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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I am sorry to hear that our Military is now working for Satan. Since apparently we no longer have a country to defend, no men or boys should enlist in the armed services. Believe me, they will soon be after you and me.
The good citizen, the generous, and the tax payer who are now called the terrorists! Diabolic!

A friend of mine highly recommended “Demonic” by Anne Coulter. Think I’ll download it on my kindle this afternoon. Apparently it is also on sale half off at Borders who are sadly closing their doors.


11 posted on 08/03/2011 12:35:30 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( NO MORE BUSHS!)
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islamism advances


12 posted on 08/03/2011 12:36:29 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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Hieronymus wrote:

given the number of Christians in the U.S. military, it would seem a very useful class not only for Christians but also for anyone in a leadership position

Vandenberg is a missile base and those officers may eventually have to launch nukes at other countries. They would very much benefit from a course in just war. There's no other way that Christians in the military to be taught about just war without Bible passages.

13 posted on 08/03/2011 12:37:09 PM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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I didn’t see in the piece if the course is optional. So long as a student could opt out I don’t see any legal problem.


14 posted on 08/03/2011 12:44:40 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Its as ridiculous as trying to teacher character traits apart from the bible.


15 posted on 08/03/2011 12:47:24 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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Iraq and Afghanistan have sharia in their constitution.
yet we give them billions of taxpayer dollars.

and order our troops to obey sharia law:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2755526/posts
US Troops in Mideast Commanded to Abide by Sharia law during Ramadan

...odd how the atheists don’t complain about that.
but the ground zero cross? has to go! ...hypocrites.


16 posted on 08/03/2011 12:49:13 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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And people are shocked why OUR country is in the sewer...Fixed it.

One of my pet peeves. Substituting “are” for “our”!


17 posted on 08/03/2011 12:49:29 PM PDT by getarope (I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubble gum!)
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Take heart...

“Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door.”


18 posted on 08/03/2011 12:50:04 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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Good.

I don't want the Air Force, or any other government agency, teaching religion other than in completely voluntary chapel settings.

19 posted on 08/03/2011 12:51:32 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Terry Mross

I get so sick of hearing this:

CONSTITUTIONAL separation of church

I’ve looked and looked at the constitution and I can’t find that anywhere.
That's because it's not in the US Constitution.

Maybe leftists just make the same mistake over and over? because it's in the USSR's constitution instead . . . 1936 version, article 124:
In order to ensure to citizens freedom of conscience, the church in the U.S.S.R. is separated from the state, and the school from the church. Freedom of religious worship and freedom of antireligious propaganda is recognized for all citizens.
1977 constitution, article 53:
Citizens of the USSR are guaranteed freedom of conscience, that is, the right to profess or not to profess any religion, and to conduct religious worship or atheistic propaganda. Incitement of hostility or hatred on religious grounds is prohibited.

In the USSR, the church is separated from the state, and the school from the church.

20 posted on 08/03/2011 12:54:28 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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