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Gunshot Demographics The ugly underbelly of the anti-gun-rights position
gunlaws.com ^ | 2011 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 08/03/2011 5:14:58 AM PDT by marktwain

How "The Bad Part of Town" and failed social policies are used for sinister attacks on the right to keep and bear arms, and help justify the law enforcement world and its budgets.

While anti-rights activists speak emotionally about "gun violence""gun deaths" "human tragedy" and saving lives, what they refuse to say is this—

Homicide in America has demographic, geographic, social and economic factors which, if acknowledged and openly discussed, would transform the debate, and place blame where it really belongs: on the causes and people that fuel the violence we hear about (but rarely actually see for ourselves, except on TV "news").

The real blame is hidden, because the truth is so painful. Crime is not spread across the streets of America. Crime, and crime using guns, happens in isolated areas for well known reasons the media and politicians hide from you.

But, it's useful to blame guns instead of criminals, and blame guns instead of politicians and social policies, and blame guns instead of festering pesthole neighborhoods, in the effort to disarm the public and transfer power to the government and away from the people.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Thank you, Baltimore Sun newspaper, for posting the interactive maps that define the problem clearly—at last (blue is choking, green is blunt force, red is shooting, black is stabbing, white is undetermined) :

(Excerpt) Read more at gunlaws.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: banglist; demographics; homicide; urban
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To: Joe Brower

It’s not social violence it’s urban renewal.


21 posted on 08/03/2011 7:47:31 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: marktwain

>>””As a middle-aged white lady, my death rate is probably 1 or 2 per 100,000 — maximum,” Leovy says. “These young men are dying at 140. They’re in a war zone, and the rest of us are living in a different country.”<<

Serious question:
Why is it ALWAYS middle-aged white ladies who seem to think they have the answers for problems within BLACK communities?
Black men in their 20s, in their 30s, in their 40s kill each other. It’s been that way since the birth of Christ and I imagine it will continue until the end of time.


22 posted on 08/03/2011 7:49:21 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: marktwain

when there is news of a fatal shooting in my town I know it happened in one of about 5 neighborhoods before the anchorman even gets to that part


23 posted on 08/03/2011 8:02:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sasquatch

ping


24 posted on 08/03/2011 8:04:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Durus

>>When a political party has done everything they could possibly do to oppress said people, when they advocate policies that create an atmosphere that destroys the family unit in minority communities resulting deaths that dwarf all but the largest genocies in history, when all their legislation does the opposite of what they claim that it does, perhaps, just perhaps, they AREN’T YOUR ALLY.<><

Here you’re talking about the US. Go to Johannesburg or any other country in Africa that is primarily Black with Black leadership and the problem still exists in almost the same proportions. There it’s a class warfare, same here. Undereducated idiots kill each other. So what?

We were shocked at the violence the Somalian immigrants. Why? They were fighting the same way they did back home. We brought these tribal animals into our society from Somalia. Us Whites want to pat ourselves on the back for being kind when we do something stupid like that. Now they are converting over to the Moslem faith and will end up killing our women. Hurrah for the idiot White men.


25 posted on 08/03/2011 8:10:14 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: mad_as_he$$

We should stay out of Baltmore.


26 posted on 08/03/2011 8:11:20 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

***Would it have been better if they was pushed outta winders...Little goil?
-Archie Bunker ***

I never watched Archie Bunker but I did make a reason to watch that particular episode. Typical lib BS from the 1970s.

Did you notice the reference to the Supreme Court Miller decision showing that handguns were not protected but military rifles were? what a change since then by the MSM.


27 posted on 08/03/2011 8:12:54 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: marktwain

He makes his point but his maps a slightly skewed because Baltimore is only 30% white. It would be interesting to see an overlay of the racial makeup of the communities across Baltimore.


28 posted on 08/03/2011 8:18:43 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Condor51

29 posted on 08/03/2011 8:25:42 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: marktwain

I did some analysis a few years ago, and showed that if you only take out the inner city gang crime in the top four or five cities in the country... then apart from that the U.S. has one of the lowest crime rates in the world.


30 posted on 08/03/2011 8:35:47 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: B4Ranch

“...Serious question:
Why is it ALWAYS middle-aged white ladies who seem to think they have the answers for problems within BLACK communities?
....”

Serious answer: Because a previous generation of middle-aged, white communist liberal assh*les TAUGHT them that they should feel guilty for EVERYTHING that happens to minorities, because it’s almost NEVER the fault of the minority in question; it’s ALWAYS the slave-owning white man’s fault.

Pretty much sums it up, B4.


31 posted on 08/03/2011 9:11:05 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

>>It needs to be pointed out, repeatedly, that thousands of blacks in the south were slave owners.

There were even black slave breeders who sold their own children into slavery.

It should also be pointed out that slavery has existed throughout history. Their ancestors all got over it and moved on.

If blacks want reparations they should sue the black tribes that sold their ancestors into slavery in the first place. Then sue the Arabs who controlled the slave trade.

Then they should move on!

38 posted on Saturday, April 02, 2011 7:03:24 PM by ladyjane <<
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2698571/posts?page=38#38


32 posted on 08/03/2011 9:18:56 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: sasquatch

I don’t plan on going East of the Mississippi for any reason in the near future!


33 posted on 08/03/2011 9:19:35 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: marktwain

Excellent links. Thanks for posting.


34 posted on 08/03/2011 9:36:01 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: B4Ranch

I know, I know...and truth got lost and twisted and mixed up with communist propaganda and pure bullsh*t to form the current “reality” we have now.

Read “Masters of Deceit” by J. Edgar Hoover. He talks about the communist infiltration into the minority communities and their efforts to foment strife and agitate.

They succeeded.


35 posted on 08/03/2011 9:45:12 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: marktwain

I think that it used to show the race and sex of the perps, which was pretty much the same. The vast majority of blacks are murdered by other blacks.


36 posted on 08/03/2011 10:07:01 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Nice Graphics.

But the photo on your About Page is much more interesting.
It's really a great photo, but you have to get a better camera than that Canon PowerShot A700 you're shooting.

If you like Canons, B&H Photo has a great deal on a Canon DSLR;

Canon EOS Rebel XS SLR Digital Camera (Black) with 18-55mm IS Lens; $489.95 & Free Shipping and no sales tax.
Then you can get the Canon Mount Sigma 70mm -300 mm Auto focus Tele Zoom with Macro for only : $239.00

I prefer Nikons and all of my family have them (In all types), it's one of my 'rules', but to each their own :-)
And I bought one of those Sigmas for my Nikon D3000 DSLR, the lens is fantastic. I use it more now than my Nikkor 55mm-200mm lens.

In case you don't know, the 18-55mm lens is equal to a 27mm to 82mm lens if on a std 35mm Film Camera. Or to the 'pro' DSLRs with the large sensor the size of 35mm film. But those cameras are $2K plus (and go UP from there). That's nuts when you can get a Quality 20"x30" Enlargement with the 'compact' DSLRs.

And the 70mm-300mm is equal to a 105mm-450mm Tele Zoom.

37 posted on 08/03/2011 10:32:14 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: Condor51

I’m actually now shooting with a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi, but I could still use an upgrade and some better lenses.


38 posted on 08/03/2011 10:44:23 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Venturer
If it were not for America’s “diversity” we would be living in one of the most non-criminal countries in the world. While you think about thhat think about who is committing the crimes in the other countries of the world.

I was at one point in an online debate about violence in America with a European woman who was going on about the US homicide rate being due to the easy availability of guns. She slunked off after I showed data from the California Justice statistics web site (most states, plus the feds, lump Hispanic crime under white crime -- California is one of the few states that break Hispanic crime out). The white, non-Hispanic homicide rate was around the European average, with Hispanic rate several times higher, and black rate twenty times higher.

Homicide rates correlate closely with ethnicity and culture.

39 posted on 08/03/2011 10:51:37 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: marktwain

That’s not what Michael Moore said!


40 posted on 08/03/2011 11:32:56 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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