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Obama, Congressional Leaders Announce Deal on Debt Reduction (FREEP all members tommorrow)
Fox News ^ | July 31, 2011 | steelers6

Posted on 07/31/2011 7:49:07 PM PDT by Steelers6

President Obama announces agreement Sunday night with GOP and Democratic leaders on a debt-reduction plan compromise that could end a perilous stalemate and avoid a potential default on America's loans

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; budget; compromise; deal; debt; obama; reid; rinos
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To: exit82

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141 posted on 08/01/2011 10:27:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: exit82

well, if yo wear yellow boots, no one will notice...


142 posted on 08/01/2011 10:48:36 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: AmericanPatriot2012; davidosborne; BillyBoy; mnehring; harpu; Jean S; dirtboy
I think I am going to join that GOOOH group does anyone know if they are liberal or conservatives?

LOL. You 'think' you are going to join a group that you don't know is liberal or conservative?!! Hahahaha.

Since you've posted to me several times, in addition to the unsolicited FReepmail, I did a search and here's some FReeper reaction to GOO .....

GOOOH Away!

p.s. you sound a lot like davidosborne.

143 posted on 08/01/2011 10:53:25 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross; AmericanPatriot2012

GOOOOH? LOL. The multi-level marketing scam of politics. By their own definition, they don’t stand for any principles, only to create a system where you buy your way into GOOOOOHEY and promise to vote for other GOOOOOOOOOHEY members in turn, they promise to vote for you (so you can get your 180K/year job) when you level of the pyramid comes around. Do yourself a favor, sign up for Amaway instead. At least with that you get soap.


144 posted on 08/01/2011 10:58:10 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mn-bush-man
No "Magic Pixie Dust" about it. Numerical control of the House alone and effective party discipline is quite sufficient to win what we want. See Pelosi, Nancy and Obamanationcare. Even though the Demonrats had your favorite Hussein in the White House and Reid running a much bigger Senate majority, we had two weapons. One was the fact that GOP solidarity in the Senate would uphold any filibuster and usually did. The second was that there was less than unanimity among Demonrats. "You will have to pass it if you want to read it."

Now tell me exactly what legislation, budget, spending scheme gets added without House approval. Even if Hussein approves? Even if the Senate unanimously opposes the conservative position? So it is not as though we held 1/3 of the seats in both houses of Congress, i.e. 1/3 of 535. Stop spinning fairy tales to yourself about how a majority of the House is helpless in the face of leftist scum almighty.

I am quite reasonably skeptical of EVER seeing you attack RINOs since it is obvious that you are, at the very best a RINO yourself. You advance surrender beyond even their inane talking points. You seem like the kind of guy who would say: Dick Lugar is a POS BUT he is OUR POS!!!

If your game is hopin' and wishin' that this sellout means taxes on incomes over $250,000 will not be raised, I will applaud when they are raised because we are bound to be sold out by those who place the interests of plutocracy in farming the rest of us first. This is the one foolish heresy of the talk show guys. However, Rush, Sean and Mark Levin and Mark Steyn are certainly hard-charging for the defeat of this craven attempt at RINO surrender as usual.

Pie in the sky bye and bye is no excuse and never will be. It has always been a sucker game and most here are not suckers as defecting Congresscowards will find out next year when they will join spineless corruptocrat Boehner in having a good cry over their mutual destruction.

STOP THE SPENDAHOLICS NOW!!!

145 posted on 08/01/2011 11:45:18 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: caww

Then we are completely on the same page.


146 posted on 08/01/2011 11:47:01 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: caww

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn tried to explain to the world that the soviets had so long dominated Russia because of what he called “the accursed capacity of our people for suffering.” Conservatives who want to be “patient” and give Hussein a shiny new $2.4 trillion to play with in an election years should be memorizing Solzhenitsyn’s analysis. His novel Cancer Ward which uses a soviet hack as a cancer patient should try to understand that the soviet hack is just a Russian form of Boehner and his sycophants.


147 posted on 08/01/2011 11:53:29 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: AmericanPatriot2012
Why are conservatives not flocking to GOOOH and leaving the GOP?

Because we want to WIN. The GOP needs to be reformed from the inside out, and that's what's happening right now.

It's a slow process, especially since the GOP has NEVER been entirely conservative. It's impossible to 'fail' in something that's never actually happened before. 2010 is as close as we've come to making the Republican party a more conservative party. (Reagan was a conservative, but did very little to move the entire party to the right).

We are now moving in the right direction. We are changing the conversation. We are having a profound effect on politics as usual in DC.

We just need to keep up the pressure.

148 posted on 08/01/2011 11:54:24 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Pence is no longer in leadership in the House. If he voted wrong, he is wrong and cast a RINO vote. He is somewhat more talented than my own very solid Congressman (Don Manzullo) who voted with Boehner and disappointed me for the very first time in the 12 years that he has represented me. I may vote for Manzullo again (if he runs again) but he is on probation. West is a victim of his own experience but he a special asset holding a near impossible seat. He has probably suicided by siding with Boehner. Paul Ryan holds the seat just north of Manzullo's. Ryan's own proposal was a classic sellout. He looks like a RINO by his persistence in selling out. He is not half the genius he is rumored to be. If some solid candidate wants to primary him, I'll drive 6 miles north to help defeat him in a primary. His scalp would be far more valuable politically than his behavior.

BTW, the term was RINO prostitute, two words. Ryan is and the other two are not nor is my Congressman Manzullo. Ryan is a high priority. Pence is a hell of a lot better than Mitch Social Issues Truce Daniels. Like Manzullo, Pence is with us 99.6 % of the time. Personally, I regard most issues as more important than this mind-numbingly materialist money BS but our impending GOP surrender makes money something worthy of attention and quite worthy of revenge and retribution. BTW, I think this is the first time I have ever disagreed with you.

149 posted on 08/01/2011 12:09:30 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: ohioWfan
You are correct OWF. Read a little (but not too much) of the link at #143.

Go Bucks!

151 posted on 08/01/2011 12:10:38 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: AmericanPatriot2012
We haven't sent money to the GOP in years.

btw, probably not a good idea to post anti-Sarah cartoons around here. One might think a brand newbie like you isn't actually a conservative......

152 posted on 08/01/2011 12:12:45 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Whoa! Thanks for the link, Servant. I didn't realize that GOOOOOOOOH was nothing more than a scam.

Information is our friend. ;*)

Go Bucks!

153 posted on 08/01/2011 12:16:00 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Of course, the fact that GOP "leaders NEVER fight for any actual conservative PRINCIPLE, always maintain a low profile, NEVER do anything but protect the pampered trust fund babies and always cater to their equally unprincipled and brainless offspring: Muffy, the Junior Leaguer, and Skipper the poloplayer who are just sooooooo embarrassed in the company of their witless friends that their poppy and mums are consorting with social savages who don't understrand that social standing sometimes just requires the availability of abortion and that babies are just icky, plays a role here. The Demonrat leaders act as actual leaders, however Bolshevik and despicable, and that's WHY there are so many marxist/socialist libs.

Whittaker Chambers defected from the Communist Party USA in the late 1940s and wrote his brilliant autobiography Witness in which he confessed that leaving communism for Americanism was like being a rat climbing on board a sinking ship. He still fought much of the good fight until his death and was one of the reasons we still enjoy any freedom at all. You are counseling surrender which is not at all like you. GOOOH, if you are not aware, means Get Out Of Our House! Its real meaning is not goo but no job security for ideological treasonweasels in public life.

Did He who died on that cross EVER suggest compromise with evil? Give three examples.

155 posted on 08/01/2011 12:27:57 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: BlackElk
Thank you for your comments. I do appreciate them and take the last line as a compliment.

I think it highlights this 'deal' as one that good conservatives can disagree over. To me, it is battle tactics and strategy in an early and significant fight within a larger war. I just saw some articles that say there is a 'tax hike' hidden in the bill. If so, all bets are off. If so, it really is a crap sandwich.

However, if it includes only spending cuts (even if miniscule in comparison to what they should be), sets up a process for additional more meaningful cuts later, avoids an economic crisis relating to technical default (a case in which perception HAS become reality) and does not allow the sycophant in-the-tank-liberals in the media to label the Tea Party movement as 'economic terrorists' to the mushy middle of voters in 2012, it is incremental gain that IMHO helps the odds of defeating the commie RATS in 2012. Either way, it is "nothing to celebrate".

156 posted on 08/01/2011 12:44:56 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: AmericanPatriot2012; Servant of the Cross
Sorry. You have happened upon a conservative website whose people are educated.

The facts about your pet project here have been revealed, and it doesn't look pretty.

Good day.

157 posted on 08/01/2011 12:45:10 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: BlackElk
I am quite reasonably skeptical of EVER seeing you attack RINOs since it is obvious that you are, at the very best a RINO yourself. You advance surrender beyond even their inane talking points. You seem like the kind of guy who would say: Dick Lugar is a POS BUT he is OUR POS!!!

Read along with many of your other posts, at this point it is abundantly clear that you are clueless and a very scary person to associate with. Go double check your inventory of ammo and sardines, Braveheart! I'm sure you're hoping you need them soon.

Later!

159 posted on 08/01/2011 12:51:10 PM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: AmericanPatriot2012
if anyone is bought and paid for by the GOP they don’t like competition..lol,,,

That applies to no one here.

Good day, noob. Peddle your wares elsewhere.

160 posted on 08/01/2011 12:54:43 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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